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There is so much negativity here. Isn't it good enough that she affects people's lives regardless of whether or not you call her an entertainer or a journalist? People enjoy what she does. I believe that the colon cancer and breast cancer awareness campaigns that she did were very important to their respective causes. By the way I don't know if you have noticed this, but there are rarely any "journalists" anymore that tell the story right down the middle with no bias. Has anyone watched Fox News or MSNBC Lately?

The article says that she was hired by "Stan Hooper" I cannot find this person anywhere online, or in other references. Isn't he a fictional character from that show "A Minute with Stan Hooper?" Rellman 22:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I would like to state that by adding a section regarding her alledged "pseudo-journalism" would be a great addition to the article. --131.247.22.90 17:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Why do her parents' religions matter? 69.86.121.251 17:15, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Because its a small biographic data. Thats what biographies do. ---Mailrobot


This looks so gushing. Does anyone care to try an NPOV touch on why Katie Couric is considered to be a bad journalist? Mike H 01:02, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

Who considers her to be a bad journalist? If so, then we could find and include the ones who consider her a good journalist. Just pointing out why she is considered a bad journalist would go against NPOV rules. Antonio Sunshine Phoenix Martin

ps: Yes Im one of the Phoenix siblings..lol Hollywood awaits!

I'm not saying that the people who consider her a bad journalist are the law, but Television Without Pity is quite vocal in their dislike of Katie Couric. It should at least be NOTED that her style is not favored in some circles. It's doing a disservice to readers to make her sound like flippin' Walter Cronkite. Mike H 08:51, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

Does Television Without Pity rule the television viewer's mind? I had never even heard of that organization. What kind of importance do they have? Saying that the president of a family value organization has expressed against the Howard Stern show, for example, would seem more senseless to me, but Television Without Pity??

The best way to do it is to stick to the facts and leave the praises or critizism out, although I admit, some cases do deserve some expert's opinions, but Kaie Couric is a journalist, and, to me at least, most journalists pretty much do the same thing, they explain the news to their best ability, detaching themselves from a human side to the news and staying neutral. "Antonio Its Saturday, lets Rock baby1!! Martin"

Folks, Katie Couric in an infotainer. That's all she is. To call her a journalist is to make yourself sound dumb, and it does a disservice to the word. She is perky, not too bright-sounding, and is downright annoying. She can't even talk right. Check out how she drops the letter G from the ends of words. "Good morning" becomes "good morneen" the way that she says it. This hack is downright annoyeen!  :) And not very professional.

She is a telejournalist. Don't get me wrong; I think she's annoying as hell, too, and at present, this article needs a thorough rewrite to accomodate criticisms (because they ARE there). But your edits smack of POV (namely that she sucks; it needs to be sourced, particularly by television critics and such...I imagine it can't be THAT hard to find) and I think you need to be acquainted with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Talking about your edits these last two months would have helped, too. Mike H 02:55, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

11/09/2004: This is a terribly written article. It would be my suggestion that someone rewrite it and also include some of the dissenting views listed above.

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[edit] Olympic Cermony Hosting

Couric has NOT always hosted the Olympic Opening Cermonies since 1992 alongside Bob Costas. For instance, Dick Enberg hosted with Bob Costas from Atlanta in 1996 as evidenced in this YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah5DF2dmhtQ

Just wanted to get the facts straight! (Itsdannyg 23:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)).

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I have made an edit to the page to reflect this fact. Changed 1992 to 2000. Itsdannyg 18:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:20, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism from 168.253 range

I've reported the IP range on WP:VIP, and protected the page since the only people editing the article in the last three weeks have been that IP, and then various users reverting him/her. Mike H 16:11, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

The professional title of journalist is inappropriate. Infotainer (within the broad news trade) is correct. -SV|t|add 02:16, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
She doesn't just do Today, though. She also does Dateline. Would you call Jane Pauley an infotainer? Mike H 02:26, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
Well the real question is, are media personalities journalists? The answer to your question about [insert media personality here] being an infotainer is yes: Anyone who substantially crosses the distinction in their career from Journalism to personality-based "news" can't really be categorized as "real journalist" ie. an associate of people like Sy Hersh or Robert Fisk.
Consider that just as there is a real difference between hard news and soft news, so too there is a difference between a journalist and an infotainer; it's really that simple. Yes, one can be somewhere at the low end of journalism / high end of infotainment, but there needs to be some reasonable appreciation of the vast difference between the ends of that spectrum between purely true and purely false reporting, where by "false" we can mean that propaganda and gossip news are essentially of equivalent value. SV|t|add 08:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


I don't remember Cronkite spending 45 seconds doing news on an important foreign policy issue then 5 minutes making a salad with some loser, then 10 minutes presenting a impromptu fashion show, then who is 100. Kind of bad when five dead troops get 8 seconds and what's Jennifer Anniston or TomKat doing gets 10 minutes. All about ratings and very little soft journalism. As for what do you call Dateline and Jane Pauley? Same thing, fake, could care less and usually about to fall asleep like the rest of them. Running Mid-sizes cars into a wall for the hundredth time isn't news. They don't do that so you and your family can get a safe mini-van. They do it cause the footage is near free (cost of a camera and sound man and stone already works for them so voices over is free) It's just bad and a lack of journalism to record someone else running Suvs, minivans, mid-size cars, luxury cars, compacts, full size trucks and small trucks into a wall. They do everyone of those every year. That is what happens when you are cheap, have too much time to fill and do not know much about journalism.

And yeah she got into Bush Sr.'s grill and Matt blasted Tom Crusie but Leno was all on McCain and Letterman is no softballer. So are they Journalist?

[edit] Chris Botti

Why are people removing the Chris Botti sentence entirely? This has been cited in many sources, and I'll re-add it with the sources. Mike H 15:46, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Journalist

I believe that people like Couric are presenters (as in the U.K. English and French usage), not journalists. One may like or dislike Couric and her ilk, but what she does is not truly journalism. This is not a value judgement, not any more than is saying that an auto mechanic is not an engineer. She is either a television personality or a presenter -- the mere fact that she interviews people does not make her a journalist. Is Conan O'Brian a journalist, since he interviews guests every night? I think not. I welcome user input before making any changes to the article. -- Zantastik talk 10:08, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

We don't use the term "presenter" in the United States, so if you want to change it to anything, I'd probably agree more on "television personality." Mike H 14:15, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Mike H, "presenter" isn't common enough in the United States to use it in an article about an American, though it is a more accurate description. Television personality, or something like it, works for me. - Jersyko talk 22:08, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Parents' religions

Why are her parents' religions included in this article? I don't feel that they are relevant. And even if they are relevant, they shouldn't be so conspicuous. The parentheses give to much prominence to such minutia and make for an awkward read. Any thoughts? --132.192.72.96 15:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I also have never heard anywhere that Katie's mother is Jewish (not that this means it's not true). I was just curious where that came from. There are lots of sites out there (i.e. jewhoo.com) that extensively list even celebreties with one Jewish parent and I've never seen her name on any of them. While I do find it interesting (she would be the first solo network anchor to even have partial Jewish ancestry, Barbara Walters was always with a co-anchor), I do have to agree that Wikipedia articles too often make a big note of the religion of a famous person's bio (or that of his/her parents). --hairymon 18:39, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Is Katie Couric the granddaughter of M.F.K. Fisher? I have heard that, but I can't verity it. I wish K. Couric the best. She is talented and attractive. Molly 18:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I think that one is an urban legend (the MFK Fisher bit), I have never seen a legitimate source on that one. I'm not sure what that has to do with "Parents' religions" anyway. However, I did a little searching and the "Jewish mother" bit is apparently true. Interestingly, Jewhoo and all those sites never turned this one up (nor, fortunately, all those neo-Nazi hate sites, it appears both them and the "ethnic pride" sites seem to go after this kind of subject with equal vigor), but she mentioned it in an interview on Fox News Channel back in March of 2004. She said she was brought up in her father's religion though. --hairymon 02:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Rewrite

I agree with some revision. Parents' religion?, "why?" Delta Delta Delta? Being invited to live on The Lawn? This sounds like it was written by a sorority sister still stuck in college life, not by someone who has any biographic writing credentials.

[edit] Legend to Legend

Changed the reference to her special, "Legend to Legend Night: A Celebrity Cavalcade," to reflect the correct title. I am ultimately hollowing myself out using an awl made of ocd by spending my time worrying about the semipermanent historical record of a ingratiating celebrity. This is a cry for help. 205.246.203.230 14:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)Drew

[edit] Does anyone watch the evening news anymore?

Kouric is going to host a show in decline. So what?

Wikipedians are not the norm.

[edit] Liberal Bias

How come there is no mention of her liberal bias when reporting the news. I think it is important and should be noted.

That's a taboo topic on Wikipedia...you won't find an ounce of liberalism mentioned on the Sierra Club page either, for instance. Even this comment is probably too racy. But I distinctly remember watching 'Today' during the Clinton/Bush election and being shocked at how blatantly she campaigned for Clinton. She essentially told America that if you voted for Bush, you were an idiot. I stopped watching Today shortly thereafter. I wish I had enough access and time to go through some archives and post some examples. Mr walsh 15:50, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

For every conservative that believes a media figure has a liberal bias, there is a lefty who believes they have a right-wing bias. For example, Media Matters for America has documented some of Couric's conservative bias: [1]
This is why this is a "taboo" topic. Tzepish 22:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is one example of why Wikipedia will never be able to be trusted as an authoritative source for information. Misguided "fans" will always swoop in and remove any facts that do not support their gushing, and frankly, the "fans" of Couric are also the types who have a lot of free time on their hands.
Katie's track record of liberal bias is pervasive and well established; it far outweighs the trivialities that MMFA has drummed up. This is clearly a biased article. Any fair-minded observer knows that Katie is an avowed liberal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by D323P (talk • contribs) 01:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Couric to start CBS Evening News on the 5th?

This was added by an anon to the intro. I added {{fact}}, but that was removed by another anon without sourcing. If anyone can cite a source that would be wonderful. Morgan Wick 01:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Likeability

Currently the "likeability" section is solely devoted to the topic of Couric's legs, rather than her personality traits. While undoubtedly her attractiveness is an important part of her likeability, I believe that it is misleading to focus on this. For example, consider this study, which found her often described as "perky", "energetic" along with "informed", "smart", and "fair". Also, it is indicated that she evokes more negative reactions than the other two major anchors, e.g. she is seen as too liberal by some. I don't have much time to edit, so I would appreciate if people could incorporate this (and other relevant material) into the article. --Chan-Ho (Talk) 06:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

It looks like I reverted further than I should have (and reintroduced material that had been deleted for POV reasons). It was a mistake -- I don't have an opinion on the matter. shotwell 21:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)


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Looking Back

If the evening news gig fails, she always go back to mornings and be a co-host on The View.

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