Talk:Kate McMillan
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This article was nominated for deletion on 1 September 2005. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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[edit] McMillan's importance
Ms. McMillan's Artwork of "The Libranos" has been flashed in the Canadian House of Commons by members of Parliament. Her blog is easily the most prominent and popular blog in right wing Canadian political blogging circles. She recieves about 3000+ hits a day.
She has also been referenced recently by luminaries in Canadian conservative political commentary circles as Ezra Levant, former communications manager for former Canadian Alliance leader Stockwell Day and also by Mark Steyn.
Granted, her only professional writing has been on the subject of dog breeding, for the "Vogue" of dogbreeders, but in this day of citizen journalism, her blog does have some prominence in Canadian popular culture.
She is also the paid administrator of the Western Standard's very popular Shotgun blog.
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- The Western Standard article disputes this. It claims Kevin Steel administers the blog. --Cyberboomer 00:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- I can't vouch for the POV, but McMillan is notable, as per Wikipedia criteria. She is on the radio alot (more than Mike Brock, another Canadian blogger who went through VfD and remained). She also seems to be quoted in the newspaper alot as a "blogging authority." Editors should also keep in mind the Systemic Bias that has been identified in Wikipedia against entries that are non-American. Bloggers generally are more notable and have a greater cultural role in Canada than elsewhere. For more info see Canadian blogosphere.--Simon.Pole 10:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm adding this link about the Wikipedia Deletion debate, which was originally placed on the original wiki entry for KM, as it seems a more suitable place for it.
Note for the record that No Treason, the website in question linked to has made several blog posts complaining that Wiki is a useless tool simply because they are unfamiliar with, or unwilling to work within the paramateters of the Wiki community to contribute to the content of Wiki. In addition At least one of the contributors from No Treason has engaged in Wiki-Vandalism of the Somena page, because they did not like how the vote went on the discussion about whether or not this particular wiki entry should be deleted. MW, May 29th, 2006
After reviewing the article and the above discussion, I took the liberty of removing the "importance" tag from the article. The article appears to cite a number of instances where the article's subject has been discussed in a legislative body, and also contains numerous links to high-hit sites involving the subject. The criteria for importance specifies that if an article can demonstrate a "reasonable number of people" are concurrently interested in the subject, it should be deemed to meet the suggested importance standard.
Therefore it appears that the importance criteria has been met, and the tag was probably outdated. Of course, it's possible I'm misreading the situation, so if there is sufficient disagreement then feel free to re-insert the tag. Dugwiki 19:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kate McMillan editing her own page
Kate McMillan has come to her the Wiki Entry about her, and has added some information which is best dealt with in the *discussion* section, instead of on the entry.
As such, I have removed the comments and invite her to bring those comments here to the *discussion* area.
Note, that Ms.McMillan has not disputed any of the comments attributed to her, nor has she offerd a reason as to why such commentary as hers about Angolans, Aboriginals or "Jap Bastards" should not be discussed. She has merely piled on a great deal of ad-hominem, instead of addressing the substance of the entry.
I would encourage Ms.McMillan to add to the Wiki Entry about herself, or edit it, if she feels that it is innacurate... and not just fill up a page of information about Wikipedians who dare to make a Wiki Entry about her political blogging.
The entry about Kate McMillan merely reports the facts. If Kate McMillan disputes the facts, then she should edit the Wiki entry to reflect that.
Post AfD, I have, as promised, fixed up the article. I believe what we have now is NPOV and maintains the proper balance. I have left out the stuff about "locking up" activists, which was clearly meant rhetorically, but kept the Angola remark because over the controversy it generated. I strongly suggest that people who have a personal connection to this subject please not edit the article. The article is not the place to catalogue every single thing McMillan says, outrageous or not. I will place it on my watchlist. Sdedeo 21:15, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Most Recent Edit by Samaritan
Samaritan wrote in editing the McMillan's entry "i'll call residential schools "widely decried"; "controversial" understates, and suggests some visible base of *support* for the system still exists. better-reflects uniqueness of McMillan's position."
Now that's interesting. I had tried very hard to write an NPOV post on this issue, and what's really odd... and perhaps may seem hard to believe is that McMillan is *not* actually really UNIQUE in her take on this.
In fact... there are some Blogging Tories who have openly defended the remarks. I suppose this is based on appalling levels of ignorance about the Residential Schools system within Canada and the impact that they had, and continue to have to this day.
In fact... when McMillan first made her remarks about all this, I was astounded that not one single person in the right-wing blog world objected. Aside from Norm Spector, and Dazzlin Dean, not one of the 150+ Blogging Tories seems to find anything objectionable about these remarks at all.
Bizarre isn't it?
When she was questioned on this point, by Peter Warren of CKNW Radio last week, because Mike Park of The Wingnutterer had written to Mr.Warren to ask him about this very Wikipedia entry, Mc.Millan actually started to cackle hysterically.
Strange but true. User:68.84.255.199 12:45, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the correct way to do this, but there is a correction that needs to be made. I am Zorpheous, the owner and operator of the Wingnuterer Blog. Mike Park does not write for Wingnuterer, nor has he ever written for Wingnuterer in the past. I don't even know who Mike Park is, or if he even owns a blog. So to who ever made this entry, please find the correct link to use, although I don't mind the traffic that I get from Wiki entry.
Hey Zorph, Sorry - it was Mike from Rational Reasons that wrote the letter to Warren. Not Wingnutterer. My mistake. 68.84.255.199 08:16, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Residential Schools
KM has not appeared to support residential schools in any serious way, and it is certaintly misleading to claim that she supports residential schools as they existed in the past. This article is not the place for listing all the things you disagree with about McMillan. Please do that somewhere else. If some important person (a major journalist, a major politician) has publically accused KM of supporting residential schools, then fine, we can include it, otherwise, no.
Sdedeo 07:00, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
She was on the Peter Warren Show, CKNW a couple of weeks ago, where Warren read a letter from Mike Park of Rational Reasons, asking her about this position. Somena 08:53, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
