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[edit] On heritage

Hi Kari, somehow I found your page after looking at some edits. Very nice. About your heritage, and the term "mutt," I use that myself, and sometimes use the description "Fancy Mixed Assortment" (once used to describe a premium grade mix for chocolates, nuts, and candies). It works. I saw that you had only passed through the state of Vermont (my home state). Hope you get to spend more than a few hours there one day. Best, Jim CApitol3 13:46, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On edits to User talk:130.113.15.57

Thanks for catching my wiki-typo. :) Justin Eiler 03:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ==Conservative Judaism WikiProject==

Kari, if you are interested in helping me start a WikiProject for Conservative Judaism, let's get started!. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yonkeltron (talk • contribs) .

Part of the "lack of airtime" thing is that the Conservative Jewish viewpoint on issues is not just one of being "in the middle". Also, one of the problems with articles relating to Judaism in general is that Orthodoxy is portrayed as being the only traditionally authentic form of halakhic interpretation and genuine "Jewishness" in general. As such, it is important not only to make the distinction between movements, but also to distinguish between the practices, beliefs and interpretation in the context of halakha. Moreover, articles about Conservative Judaism just need lots of work. --yonkeltron 00:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the Tanakh

Good job starting the WikiSource Tanakh material! -- Dauster 20:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion Orthodox Judaism

I'm trying to avoid out-and-out reversion without explanation absent clear vandalism. Concerned that a cold RV for just an ill-considered edit could turn a well-meaning newbie off unnecessarily. Realize I haven't been keeping this myself consistently. Shavuah Tov, --Shirahadasha 19:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Post

Yes, I was a hyper idiot yesterday evening, and I apoligize sincerely. Alright, I have severely toned down my topic in Talk:MJ, made it completely fact-dense, and re-posted it. 12.65.216.68 19:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Added a response to your criticism. Thank you for your patience, Kari. 12.65.216.68 20:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I saw the experimental vandal edit to the article. Thank you for rving it. It is sad and it pains me to see that there are there some closed-minded, ignorant extremists that still believe Messianic Judaism is some sort of a vast conspiracy missionary effort (had they attended any of the links of websites about MJ, they would see how profoundly far from the truth that is; they haven't done that of course, perhaps they believe the Jewish Moshiach will corrupt them), rather than the branch of Judaism that it is. Shalom 12.64.228.158 01:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I will be making little to no editing until my account, Zorkfan, is reopened in a week. When I return as an editor, one of my first undertakings will be a treatise set forward in the talk page that will give the editors (almost none of whom know a salt's worth about Judaism or Messianic Judaism) a better idea of what MJ is by explaining what groups have no actual connection to Messianic Judaism. These groups include Hebrew Christians, J.f.J., anyone that teaches that the Torah is non-normative, Trinitarians, anyone that attempts to pronounce the Tetragrammaton as part of their doctrine, anyone that teaches that the Moshiach is somehow equal to G-d, and anyone who claims that the Moshiach did away with a part of the Torah as a teaching. None of these groups are M-Judaism (though some may think they are), and I will explain why and how. Shalom and much appreciated 12.65.204.74 04:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish services -text and language

In Jewish services#Text and language, it says "most communal prayers may be recited in any language the worshiper understands" does this mean a halakhically observant Jew who doesn't understand Hebrew or Aramaic but attends an Orthodox shul where no local language is used, is halakhically forbidden to participate in most prayers? If not, what is the exception and what is its halakhic basis? My grandma went to a large and poor orthodox shul in the Lower east side in her youth and according to her most people there didn't know any Hebrew at all.. a Hebrew education was only available to those who could pay for it or who had it in the family, which was very few.
It says certain prayers must be said in Hebrew.. do you have any idea which ones they are.. is it just the Shema? Can you help provide a reference? Zargulon 15:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I moved the discussion of the Shema language to Shema. It seemed more appropriate there. In Jewish services the general statement covers everything and restating the principle for selected individual prayers didn't seem to belong there as much as in the Shema article. --Shirahadasha 18:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Added a footnote with the mention of Shema and the reference. Also added a footnote referencing Sotah 7:2 for a list of prayers that must be said in Hebrew. Best, --Shirahadasha 03:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your userpage

Hi, I'll redesign your userpage for you if you want; you made a comment about its design on it! SunStar Net 22:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The bad news is....

He'll be back soon enough, and reverting. Jayjg (talk) 23:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zorkfan

Yes, it was him again. Jayjg (talk) 14:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You can accuse me of bad faith, but that doesn't give you the right to revert my edit.

Please don't be so condescending next time, ok???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aljazzera44 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] What's your objection to describing Israel as a colony?

I editted the Israel article to say that the Zionists intended to establish a colony, and quoted Jabotinsky.

Why did you revert such a straightforward observation, amply proven by the source I quoted?

PalestineRemembered 22:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I can cite plenty of books or websites of fabricated information about what Israel is or isn't. Remember WP:V and WP:NOR. You also might want to remember that Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Kari Hazzard (T | C) 22:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure you can quote mass fabrications about Israel - I see such things constantly. But I quoted one of the top Zionists, memorialised by Israel in Jerusalem.
These are his words in his own book "The Iron Wall", 1923:
....... A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else - or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE! ... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important ... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing.
There you go - the words of the founder of Revisionist Zionism (the precursor of Likud) - do you dispute what Israel is based upon?
I'm strongly against getting involved in some kind of edit-war, but the evidence for Israel being a colony is clear for everyone to see. Americans and others can travel there freely, and the right sort of settlers are very welcome, with assistance given (Flimsiest of connections needed, eg the Russians). People born there cannot get in atall. This is "colonising" far more extreme than anything that took place under the British Empire (even apartheid South Africa!).
PalestineRemembered 10:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linux project banners

Hi, Karimarie. I notice that you've been adding {{Linuxproject}} to various Linuxy topics. However, speaking as a founding member of WikiProject Linux, I don't think this is too useful for these articles. Since it was started, the project hasn't really done anything of consequence, so I don't think it's advisable right now to stick links up on lots of talk pages. Maybe if the project gets more active, it will be more useful to put these banners up. Twinxor t 07:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You're correct that the articles are relevant to the project, but I don't believe that the reverse holds. My point is that the project hasn't done much, and linking it is unlikely to benefit the articles at this point. I'm not going to go reverting your edits; I just wanted to advise you. Twinxor t 00:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] userboxes

firstly, 'hi' as a new friend! secondly please can you give me the code for the recycling and public transport userboxes!?!? i cant find them in your source. ta! Chavatshimshon 21:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In your Honest Oppinion

Just because you don't like my oppinion (the leading oppinion)about reform rabbis, doesnt mean that you have a right to remove my comments. for starters what makes you an athority on Judaism in the first place? I am jewish since the day i was born, and I studied to be a rabbi, (though I am not a rabbi) You on the other hand have very limited knowledge about judaism, though Im sure you think that you are all knowing about Judaism and its practices, and maybe you even want to be a rabbi in teh Jewish Club called reform Judaism, the problem is that the term rabbi was coined, way before reform Judaism ever existed, so who gives reform Jews a right to change the meaning of the word, and what training is needed, call it a Reform Counsler.

Ohh, maybe its because you are a woman, (btw Judaism doesnt directly prohibit lesbionism, it only brohibits Male Homosexuality).

You Are not an authority, and I am speaking my oppinion, which in this case is no doubt corret, so what gives you the right to remove my comments, waiting for a reply,

best regards,

Smiton Raulay —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.47.150.126 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Who the hell do you think you are, Ellen?

Who gives you the right to revert my edit to Israel? What the hell are you anyway? You ignored a previous message of mine, but don't ignore this one and actually engage in discussion! Women don't like cowardice! Bye Ellen! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.84.56.191 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Please think more about how to be civil

Your comments in the discussion on the proposed deletion of category:anti-Semitic people are intimidatory and a serious breach of Wikipedia:Civility. You really have things the wrong way round. It is not deletion of this category that would be an exception to general practice, but keeping it. You are asking for this subject to be given special treatment. Note that you comment is an example of how often supporters of this sort of category fail to resist the temptation to infer that those who disagree with them are anti-semitic. That habit is intimidatory and it isn't acceptable. So is your completely groundless allegation that the nominator acted in bad faith. Hawkestone 17:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christianity and Judaism

You may care to comment here: [1] Slrubenstein | Talk 13:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deleted categories

Thanks for commenting on the deletion of the Jewish American businessman category. I hope more people get involved with categories, otherwise the small cabal in-charge will have no oversight, and will be making decisions without being aware of the consequences. Do you know any admin people you can get involved? I have no clue how many people have lost their ethnic tags from their deletion. I restored tags to the two biographies I wrote. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 18:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Borrowed

Hi. I borrowed your box on traveling, because it was fun. And besides, you're from Rochester (or at least you're at RIT), and you'll forgive me. If not, I'll delete it. OrangeMarlin 02:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accusation

Your accusation that I "used my admin flag to circumvent consensus" is gratuitous and insulting. You may wish to consider apologising. --RobertG ♬ talk 09:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. It's all very well, but "direct violation" of which category guideline? I do not see the word "ethnic" on WP:CAT. On WP:CATGRS it appears a couple of times, but none seems directly relevant. I see where you are coming from about "soapboxing": perhaps in retrospect, despite the severe CFD backlog at the time, I should have relisted it for further discussion, although it seemed clear-cut to me. If I was on the verge of being convinced of your logic, however, I now find that any regrets I have in this matter are actually a direct result of the tone of your intervention which still appears to me to impute base motives baselessly. I will certainly avoid citing WP:AGF in future as you advise. I was insulted because "circumvention of consensus" was diametrically opposed to my intentions. WP:AAGF tells me to "allow for the possibility that one can incorrectly judge another's intentions or assumptions". Were you trying to say that you think you misjudged my intentions? Have I misjudged your intentions or assumptions? If so I am sorry. Have I angered you? I am always sorry to make anyone cross. Please treat these as rhetorical questions. No reply is required. --RobertG ♬ talk 16:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your revert of Halakha

Why did you revert the removal of the content "(and to some extent within the left wing of Orthodoxy [citation needed])" This statement was unsourced (hence the {{fact}} tag) An unsourced statement can be removed at any time per WP:V. Such a statement (not its removal) violates WP:OR. Leaving unsourced statements in place and tagging them as opposed to simply removing them is a matter of an editor's discretion. The tag had been there for a while, there was time for people to come up with sources, so courtesy was complied with and removal was appropriate. If you want an unsourced statement which has been removed back in, you need to supply a source. To avoid WP:3RR I'll personally leave things as they are for a couple of days (can't speak for others). But if there is no source for this statement, it can be removed again. Best, --Shirahadasha 04:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Japanese and the Jews

Kari, given your interest in both Judaism and the Japanese language, you might find it interesting to find a copy of the book "The Japanese and the Jews" by Isaiah BenDasan. I came across this book as a U.S. exchange student to Japan in the 1980s. The author finds many interesting cultural similarities between the Jews and Japanese, along with a few contrasts, and cites geographical and historical factors that may have factored into these similarities/differences. My sociology professor in Japan recommended this book to our class, and commented that while the ideas are speculative and not really academic, the ideas are intriguing and insightful. So you might want take a look at it sometime. Best wishes on your studies and your spiritual journey. Timotheos 03:49, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your User Page

Hi, I'm Brandon and I was just scrolling around the user pages of Wikipedia, when I came upon yours when looking at deaf wikipedians. I love your user page since it is super easy to read and navigate though. Also, I find it really cool that you are a partially deaf and know ASL. I'm a first year student [now on 1B], so it is really great to see someone else that knows it too. Well, just thought I would complimate you on your amazing User Page. Tootles and hope to speak with you soon! Chickyfuzz123 07:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ragnarok Online

The page is extremely long, so I shortened it. It doesn't need a huge description of what every single job is and how to progress through them. You can have them undelete some images if you require. -- Prod-You 02:58, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ragnarok Online jobs. -- Prod-You 04:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:When you say you are going to move it to a new page, you should do it, rather than simply deleting the material outright, which is vandalism. I did move it to a new page, not vandalism. Take it up with the admins if you disagree. -- Prod-You 12:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Wikipedians against censorship" huh?!?

Then why the heck do you insist on censoring BC and AD with "BCE" and "CE"? As if somehow we magically no longer base our time division on the birth of Jesus Christ? That sounds like censoring to me!. — RunningAway 18:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

First, WP:DATE says nothing about BCE and CE being any more or less appropriate than AD and BC. It merely states that both are acceptable within Wikipedia. As for the censorship issue, if you believe CE and BCE aren't a form of censorship than I do believe that your definition of censorship is flawed. If the CE system had a different pivotal year 1 than the AD system, then it wouldn't be a censorship of the AD system. But the CE system does nothing to change that year. The CE system is still based on the perceived birthdate of Jesus, so how is it more neutral if it's still dividing time with that particular religious event? It's all just political correctness (i.e. censorship) gone amok, just like the word "holiday" instead of "Christmas"—both are the obscuring of history for the purposes of "not offending" some people who probably wouldn't even be offended. In a century or so after this PC hype is gone, people will look back and laugh at how we obscured history just for those reasons. Why was AD, BC, and Christmas okay for the past hundreds or thousands of years but all of a sudden now we must pretend they don't exist?. — RunningAway 20:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
If you think BCE/CE is synonymous with WP:NPOV then why does Wikipedia still allow and merit usage of BC and AD? In fact, in the policy articles they use BC and AD with BCE and CE in brackets, suggesting they prefer BC and AD. — RunningAway 21:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin. Antics @ "Category:Jewish-American businesspeople"

Hello -- you may recall that in mid-December 2006 you and many others voted to undeleted "Category:Jewish-American businesspeople" which had been unjustly and swiftly deleted by a rogue administrator in early December 2006; proper debate/voting was not done and huge amounts of data was lost when this category was deleted, many of the people in that category losing their Jewish identity entirely because of this. This particular unjust category deletion happened in early December 2006, see: [2].

This unjust category deletion was later rectified when you along with others overwhelmingly voted to overturn the deletion and relist the category, see: [3]. However, at this time neither admins. nor others bothered to begin re-adding the names that had been lost/merged when the category was originally deleted.

However, the category was not immediately recreated -- it wasn't relisted until many-many days after it had been voted back in to existence, and I had to bug User:RobertG in order to get it relisted, see: [4]. Also, since that category's former data had already been entirely merged in to "Category:American businesspeople" it effectively meant that in order to rebuild the unjustly deleted category the people that had built it up over many months had to start from scratch since a list of the former names in the category were never provided so that users could re-add them. The category nor a list of the names that were formerly in it is no longer available, or this info is only accessible by admins.

Finally, even though the category deletion was properly overturned by you and others, it was renominated for deletion AGAIN on the 10 of January 2007 (only days after it had been recreated) -- it was then deleted 17 January 2007, with NONE of the people that had formerly voted to relist the category voting this time around; see: [5].

I am wondering if there is anything that can be done about this? Are you able to obtain a list of the names that were formerly in the category, or are only admins. able to do that? Can you or someone else try to have the category relisted? Is there a way to undelete the category again, given that it was deleted BOTH TIMES under rather dubious circumstances, with those that voted to undelete it the first time not even knowing to vote the second time or even that it had been renominated for deletion?

Thanks for any info/help that you can provide. --172.161.68.238 15:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kari, nice colors :)). RobertG's page says that he "is away on a lengthy business trip", so I am not sure RFC is timely. Also, only someone who's been involved in the dispute may certify an RFC. I think I actually missed the entire ordeal (I've been busy in RL lately). I don't mind making a stmt. but I'll need to learn the facts first. Cheers. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commons user Karimarie

I assert that I am commons user Karimarie. Kari Hazzard (T | C) 03:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your reversion re Israel

Thanks for explaining your reversion (Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc.)

I don't think you are correct - if I am a Jew, then I can automatically become a citizen of Israel. However, if I am a Muslim, that does not make me a citizen of Iranm/Arfganistan/Pakistan etc.

The only parallel I am aware of was the German situation whereby any German speaker after WWII could automatically get BRD citizenship.

Please will you unrevert your reversions?

Johnbibby 23:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

You say: A "Jew" is not necessarilly an adherent of the religion Judaism. See Who is a Jew? for more information about that. The point is that Israel being a Jewish state has less to do with the Jewish religion (Judaism) as it does with the defined ethnic groups identified as being compnents of the Jewish people. It's more of an ethnic or cultural definition than a religious thing. Kari Hazzard (T | C) 23:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

This is a very legalistic point - it may be that my edit needs refining, but it is substantially correct i.e. Israel is a Jewish state; it is defined by religion; no other state is like this. (By being a Catholic, you can't become a Vaticonian; by being Muslim you can't acquire citizenship of a Muslim state; but by being Jewish/a Jew you can become Israeli.)

Please refine my edit rather than delete it.

Johnbibby 23:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Well I've taken your advice - I've been bold. And I'm going to bed. (It's past midnight over here!)
Johnbibby 00:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday!

Hey, I was checking over the watchlist and noticed that you just turned 20; Happy Birthday! ˉˉanetode╦╩ 04:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I was checking over the watchlist and noticed that you just turned 20; Happy Birthday! ˉˉanetode╦╩ 04:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: User talk:Salmonish

Of course. :) Now that I've completed the obvious step, I'm not too sure what to do about the account -- maybe it's been compromised? Luna Santin 20:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Good point. I'm losing sight of my counter-vandal roots. :p Ran it past AN/I, think I'll block for now. Luna Santin 20:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... it's got a few good edits, but an unfortunate amount of crap. Blocked for now, we'll see what comes of it. Luna Santin 20:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Yep, looks like that happened in the end. Now, off to class. Luna Santin 20:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't mind at all. ;) You're free to pillage and plunder as you like. Some things (like the bar) will need to be "customized" to match your own userpage, but let me know if you need any help sorting it out. Luna Santin 01:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adonai

Adonai is the 1st singular possessive as attached to plural noun (literally "my lords"), while Adoni would be the 1st singular possessive as attached to singular noun (literally "my lord"). Adonei would be the construct state plural (not the ordinary plural). See User_talk:130.91.237.167 . AnonMoos 20:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Consulting standard lexicons and grammars is not "original research", and the article said "plural" for many months before anonymous IP 130.91.237.167 came along. Unfortunately, my browser doesn't really support input of Hebrew vowel points as text, but look at image Image:Tetragrammaton-related-Masoretic-vowel-points.png -- the little red "T" symbol under the right-bracket-looking letter on the line "Adonai, with its slightly different vowel points" would be a dot (not a "T") if the word were a singular noun with 1st sg. possessive suffix (instead of a plural noun with 1st. sg. possessive suffix) -- and would have the corresponding pronunciation "Adoni". I really don't feel like making up an image with all the typical forms of possessive pronominal suffixes as attached to singular nouns as contrasted with all the typical forms of possessive pronominal suffixes as attached to plural nouns in Hebrew, but you need to consult a reference work with this information before making further similar edits to the article. AnonMoos 21:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
If you're not familiar with this ancient Hebrew morphological paradigm, why are you continuing to edit outside your area of Knowledge? AnonMoos 20:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
אדון Singular Plural
Absolute state Adon Adonim
Construct state Adon Adonei
with 1st.sg. suffix Adoni Adonai
with 2nd.sg.masc. suffix Adonkha Adoneykha
with 2nd.sg.fem. suffix Adonekh Adonayikh
with 3rd.sg.masc. suffix Adono Adonaw
with 3rd.sg.fem. suffix Adonah Adoneyha
with 1st.pl. suffix Adonenu Adoneynu
with 2nd.pl.masc. suffix Adonkhem Adoneykhem
with 2nd.pl.fem. suffix Adonkhen Adoneykhen
with 3rd.pl.masc. suffix Adonam Adoneyhem
with 3rd.pl.fem. suffix Adonan Adoneyhen

I said it before and I'll say it again, consulting standard Biblical Hebrew reference works such as lexicons and grammars is not "original research"[sic]. Meanwhile, you appear to have no applicable relevant knowledge or sources whatsoever to bring to bear in your attempts to contradict the state of the article as it was for many months (before your little buddy anonymous IP 130.91.237.16 came along and started meddling...). AnonMoos 22:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I'm not a "Hebrew speaker"[sic] and never claimed to be. AnonMoos 23:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jacob

I've requested that the article be semi-protected. People seem to enjoy vandalizing it, though I'm not quite sure why. Best, DLandTALK 04:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Boy Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)

I've added two photos and about 10 refs. Please look it over and let me know if you any more concerns before I relist it for GAC. Pls leave msg on article talk page.Rlevse 21:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

You've apparently taken the weekend off, which is fine, so I went ahead and relisted it at GAC. If someone doesn't beat you to it, pls review and leave comments on the article's talk page. Rlevse 12:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Ah, someone already promoted it. Thanks for you help.Rlevse 15:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for helping and glad you concur.Rlevse 21:39, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

I found your userpage, under Lesbian Wikipedians and you seem like an interesting person. I'd love to talk sometime, if that's alright. kc12286 03:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)kc12286


[edit] Deaf-mute

Hi Karimarie. I'm seeking opinions and possible support for an issue in which I'm in a debate with other Wikipedians. I'm trying to change indiscrimant use of the term "deaf-mute" in describing deaf people in general. To see some comments related to the issue, see Talk:The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter, as well as my own Talk page, User talk:Ward3001. You can also follow the links to other discussions. Right now I'm about the only person addressing the issue because deaf people are such a small minority. Other Wikipedians, with apparently no prior knowledge of the issue, are reverting my edits. If you're interested in expressing your opinion, feel free to do so. If you wish to discuss further please leave me a message on my Talk page. Thanks. Ward3001 19:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ragnarok Online

Hi, I reverted your edit as while it was obviously made in good faith, the cited poll is actually titled that, regardless of whether or not it is grammatically correct. Just letting you know. Kari Hazzard (T | C) 01:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kari, my apologies for that. I've added that miscorrection to my bot's exception list so it won't happen again. Cheers, CmdrObot 01:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Denomination of Judaism?

Not an article-related question. What movement of Judaism are you considering? Because if it is Orthodox you may have a difficult time in being open with your sexuality. Noogster 16:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Could you have a look at these articles and their talk?

I see you're interested in wikiproject Judaism. Could you have a look at these articles and their talk?

I feel the articles are extremely well sourced and balanced. I'd like somebody else to remove the tags. Please look at my last versions, because I have run up against somebody from the evolution/creation universe who wants to pick a fight. --Metzenberg 04:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I really need your help here. ZayZayEM is engaging in troll-like behavior, such as making edits on the very materials I am editing, removing sourced materials immediately after I add them, and so forth. It is a harassment pattern that extends across multiple articles. The main articles involved are:
* Jewish reactions to intelligent design
* Jewish opposition to evolution
* Natan Slifkin
It is bizarre behavior, because I can see no reason why he is even interested in this material. As you and I both know, it is material you have to really understand well to edit. Over the last week, I have substantially rearranged all the materials on Judaism and evolution in an effort to clean up the main Judaism and Evolution page first of all, so that it can be turned into a page that is not dominated by issues (such as the Slifkin affair) that would have undue weight. ZayZayEM has simply made it impossible for me to work. He has followed me from one article to another, demanding arbitrary changes. many of his edits, and his changes, show that he knows very little about the subject, which as you and I both know, is quite abstruse at times. --Metzenberg 16:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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