User talk:Kamran

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[edit] Pashtun

I basically agree with your recent remark at Pashtun. As you can see, if you examine the talk page and the history of the article, I had warded off several attempts at focusing the article toward the "lost tribes" point of view, but really couldn't stop someone who had his documentation in a row on a topic where I have no expertise.

Note, in particular, my comment from a little over a week ago:

As far as I can tell, what we have here is a good accounting of something that many of the Pashtun believe about their own origins, and solid documentation that this belief was shared by many 19th-century British and that there are still some non-Pashtun today who agree. The citations appear to be good, and they do demonstrate (just about exactly) that much. What is missing, and it will require someone with knowledge about the Pashtun which I lack, is a comparably solid set of citations demonstrating that this is now a minority opinion among anthropologists.
I had deleted earlier half-baked material related to the "Israelite origin" theory, as had some others. However, this material seems good enough that it at least mostly belongs here. I don't think it's "gibberish" at all, but I do think that without the counter-view -- now dominant except among the Pashtun themselves -- also being presented, it is misleading. I, for one, would welcome someone presenting that counter-view.

If you can set the article to rights in that respect, I, for one, would greatly appreciate it. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:31, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

Unlikely someone will simply revert your edits, assuming you also provide decent citations. The tradition of the Israelite descent that is a longstanding belief of the Pashtun themselves, so it should be discussed, along with the degree to which the Imperial British tended to accept that claim. The issue is not to remove the "Lost Tribes" material, it is to contextualize it and to indicate what modern anthropologists have to say. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:15, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
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