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Contents 1 Another Agito and Rider 555 2 Black and RX 3 555 Animal Motif? 4 Skyrider 5 Image 6 Question of series future 7 Kamen Rider 2007 8 Kamen rider and Metal Hero

[edit] Another Agito and Rider 555

you forgot to mention Another Agito in Kamen Rider Agito riders list, his motif is a grasshopper due to his bike name 'Dark Hopper'. He also closely resemble rider 1 and 2 due to scarve like clothing on his back and might be designed as a tribute to both of them.

about rider 555, i strongly believe that he was designed after a firefly/lightbug motif besides 'phi' letter due to his appearance. about other faiz's riders like kaixa and delta, it is unclear what their motifs are.

[edit] Black and RX

Black and Black RX is the second generation? I thought he's the last of the first generation (with the cameo of riders in RX final episodes)Suredeath 13:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 555 Animal Motif?

On this page under "Motifs" it lists the 555 Riders (Faiz, Kaixa, et al) having animal motifs. Faiz being a firefly for example. I've never heard of this ever, no mention of this on the related character pages [1][2][3][4][5], no mention on the series page [1], and there is no supporting references. Is this just my lack of Rider trivia knowledge or is having those animals listed original research? Theredcomet2000 04:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Tv-asahi website. :) Floria L 17:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I see. Glad I asked then. Thanks.  :) Theredcomet2000 06:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

For some reason someone deleted the Insect Motifs of 555. I only remember a couple of them, so if someone could insert the rest again that'd be great. DJ Kidna 18:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

• I've readded the insect motifs. Archon Divinus 02:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Is nobody even bothering with this anymore? So much for the Toku project. DJ Kidna 16:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skyrider

Sky Rider's series name was simply "Kamen Rider", not "Shin Kamen Rider". Also, he waa never called "Shin Kamen Rider/New Kamen Rider" in that series nor his later appearences. So, what's the point of a article named "New Kamen Rider", if he's more knowed as "Sky Rider"? --Black Condor 12:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)--Black Condor 01:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

The series was just called Kamen Rider, at the time, this is true. But to reduce confusion, everybody calls it New Kamen Rider (Always "New", never "Shin") these days. The character is Skyrider, the series is New Kamen Rider.--Sean|Black 23:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Not everybody, as you claim. But this isn't really a big issue. --Black Condor 01:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, mostly everybody. It's the most common name, though.--Sean|Black 01:32, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I added "or Locust" to the motif for Skyrider. Different sources claim different motifs, but personally I feel Locust seems more likely since it's close to the Grasshopper and flies. DJ Kidna 03:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Hi, I'm the one who uploaded an image of KR Black RX to put on the main page, which has been removed. My philosophy behind using Black RX was because he's a good middle-line between the original riders and the modern ones and that he would also allow fans of the Saban version who come to this article to instantly confirm that Kamen Rider is indeed the Japanese version of MR. If you'd like a different image and don't wish to post it yourself, I'd be more than happy to look for one, but I think that having some image is better than no image, so, until another one is uploaded by someone, I'd like to replace this one.--Bluebird's Song 13:06, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh no, thank you for uploading the image! However, because Wikipedia is licensed under the GFDL, we can only use copyrighted images under the fair use doctrine of US law. So, in accordarnce with Wikipedia policy on fair use, I thought that the image would be more appropriate at the main article for Kamen Rider BLACK RX, where I moved the image to. Thanks again, and sorry about the misunderstanding.--Sean Black|Talk 21:24, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, alright, thank you. What sort of image do you think would enhance the franchise page?--Bluebird's Song 21:47, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, not sure. I don't know if we can get one that would qualify for fair use on a general page like this one. Maybe a screencap from one of those videos featuring all seven Riders?--Sean Black|Talk 22:33, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering: would the image on the Kabuto main page with all the riders ([1]) qualify? I admit that my understanding of the legal restrictions is quite limited. I would consider it a promotional photo that they made available to all, thus legal. Is that thinking flawed?--Bluebird's Song 17:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

It could be. How was the picture released? In magazines? Or just over the internett? I imagine we could use it on this page, because of the series overview section- it would be attached to the discussion of the design characteristics of the various Riders.--Sean Black|Talk 22:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, as far as I know, this specific picture was only released over the internet. To be honest, my philosophy with this sort of thing has always been "try it and see if anyone objects." But if the image from the official site is a no-go, I believe I could possibly obtain a personal photograph from that event taken by someone who attended, although that might take some time.--Bluebird's Song 01:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question of series future

There are BBS Japan and say mask rider of next series in new year 2007. Where to put BBS user find of secret on wikipedia website?[2]

No rumors please. Floria L 17:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kamen Rider 2007

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/8601/1164377080021jm3.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3365/1164377556976sf3.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3503/1164377346168da5.jpg

I don't see a name anywhere there, so how should we go about titling the article until we get one?

[edit] Kamen rider and Metal Hero

I don't know how to fit this one in, but I believe most toku fan realized that 3rd generation Kamen Riders and Metal Hero have much more in common than 3rd generation and the 1st generation riders.Suredeath 09:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)