Talk:Kalomoira Saranti

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Contents 1 POV 2 Paragraph 3 VfD results 4 Name 5 Problems with criticism section

[edit] POV

This article needs a major bias cleanup - reads like classic astroturf. Added POV warning at the top. If there are no objections, I'll do it myself, as well as fix the typos and style errors.

[edit] Paragraph

removed the following paragraph

In fact Ant1's Good Morning Greece programme - a leading current affairs show - surveyed kids where all of them knew of the finalists of Fame Story, but could not recite knowledge such as prominent Greek history and geography. In fact many of the children were asked this on Greece's national day - 25th March. The majority of children did not even know as to what event in Greece's history they were celebrating. Yet when asked facts concerning Kalomira and Fame Story, ALL children asked knew all facts pertaining to Kalomira's and the shows success.

Kalomira is not responsible for the bad state of Greek education. The children WILL know what happens in front of them, in their everyday lives no matter what they are taught. Whether or not they will know their history, is a matter of teaching, not of singers' influence. Pictureuploader 01:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD results

This article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. For details, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalomira Sarantis. -- BD2412 ^talk 04:34, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Shouldn't the name be altered to Saranti instead of Sarantis, as is in proper Greek? Russian female surnames differ from their male counterparts even in English translation, why isn't it also the case for greek? Pictureuploader 18:50, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Her father's name is Nikos Sarantis (Νίκος Σαράντης in Greek characters), and his wife and daughters will take the genitive form of that name — Saranti (Σαράντη) — but it has been known for immigrants into English-speaking countries in particular to try and fit in with the culture and ways of the country they now live in, or simply to avoid confusion, where the surname will be the same for all members of the family, regardless of gender, in which case the singer Kalomira's surname would be Sarantis (however to Greeks she is known by the 'correct' Saranti).

So, to answer the question in short, no, her name should remain Sarantis on the English article.

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[edit] Problems with criticism section

This all completely unreferenced. It's basically original research. You should cite specific people, saying specifici things, in specific places. We also only want notable commentators (what you read on a message board doesn't count). WP:LIVING seems to frown on this. WP:V and WP:CITE would also be relevant. Basically, this is just a bunch of gossip, that could probably levelled against any young female pop star. Nothing in the section will cause somebody to be more knowledgeable after reading it. There are tabloids people can read for gossip. --Rob 09:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

While nothing that Kalomoira has to offer, in general, will cause anybody to be more knowledgeable, Rob has a point. I edited that section a bit. Let me guys know what you think Project2501a | ΑΝΥΠΟΤΑΞΙΑ, ΑΠΑΛΛΑΓΗ, Ι-5 19:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to include both rob's and Pictureuploader's point of view

hit me baby one more time? *grabs the mallet* :D :D Project2501a | ΑΝΥΠΟΤΑΞΙΑ, ΑΠΑΛΛΑΓΗ, Ι-5 08:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)