Talk:Kalduny

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 3 December 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] AfD

Kept: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalduny. `'mikkanarxi 19:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs cleanup

This article needs some clean-up. Some problems include:

  • There are many instances of weasel words. For example: "Some people maintain it came from..." Who maintains this? Wikipedia guidelines are to avoid the use of weasel words. We need to be specific about who says this. That way the reader is better able to evaluate the source of the information.
  • "...is the most mysterious..." - that sentence is really an opinion. We need to cite a specific person who has that opinion, or the sentence should come out.
  • "...and are eaten by spoon so that dough wrapping is not broken (torn?) and not a single drop of delicious juice from inside is lost." - Two problems here. First, who says this is the reason they are eaten by spoon? Second, the idea that the juice is delicious is an opinion. We can include an opinion, but only when we cite a notable person who has that opinion. For instance, "Food Critic Tom Smith says this prevents losing any of the delicious juice."
  • "Belarusians argue with Poles and Lithuanians for the priority of introducing kalduny into the cuisine of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth." This sentence smacks of hyperbole. Surely all Belarusians and all Poles and all Lithuanians do not argue about this. Again, we need to cite specific, notable people who disagree about this. Otherwise, the sentence needs to come out.
  • "...in the days of yore any decent gentry housewife had her own secret of dough:" - Opinion. Needs to come out.
  • "Some maintain that the true dough for Kalduny..." - weasel words - need to come out.
  • "When shaping your own kalduny, lay the ready ones on a clean surface strewn with flour and close the rest of the dough with a kitchen towel so that it don’t dry out." Wikipedia ia not a how-to guide or a cook-book. We should always speak in the third-person, never the first person or the second person. In other words, we should never directly address the reader as "you". It is not encyclopedic in tone.
  • "tuffing should be neither too ‘hard’ nor too sticky – best if you can shape small 1 inch ball from it. It should not get between the 2 edges of the glued kalduny so that they do not disintegrate during cooking." - Same as above. No instruction. No second person.
  • "Most kalduny are best when boiled..." - Opinion
  • "Almost infinite number of combinations of dough,..." - Exageration
  • "...stuffing and sauce gives unlimited potential for the creativity which still mostly lay unclaimed:" - Opinion

Johntex\talk 16:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Yep, I agree. That second paragraph needs an overhaul. I've replaced the cleanup tag with the more specific {{weasel}}. The cleanup backlog there is about 10 times smaller. MER-C 03:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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