Talk:Jutsu (Naruto)
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[edit] General convo
We should ditch the wapuro stuff for circumflexed vowels signifying double vowels. WhisperToMe 05:48, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)
First of all. This page is incorrectly named. It should be Naruto jutsu, not Naruto jutsus. Second, this page should be a part of the existing Naruto page. Third, there are various romanization problems here. Oh, Whisper to me. What a surprise... Exploding Boy 06:26, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)
- How about "List of Naruto jutsu"? The "List of ..." article name is becoming commonplace on Wikipedia, and it seems to make sense; this is list, after all. --Iamunknown 07:05, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I changed the name of the article to Naruto jutsu --JadziaLover 08:29, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The size of this page is in excess of 32k--would it be reasonable to create subpages for Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Other, and move the bulk of the information there? ('other' could include combinations of the regular three categories, such as harem no jutsu, as well as jutsu that do not easily fit into the initial three categories, such as 'Cancel'--arguably not itself a genjutsu, though it relates to them.) Chimerasame 07:12, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
Two things:
- The Chidori is listed twice, once as a taijutsu and once as ninjutsu (although it's listed as it's other name, the one that start's with an R). Should it be deleted or listed under the same thing to help clarify things?
- Second, the Sharingan can also be used to copy jutsus, edited the entry accordingly..vb5678
In the first databook Chidori and Raikiri are treated as two different jutsu. Chidori (done by Uchiha Sasuke) is an A-rank jutsu, while Raikiri (done by Hatake Kakashi) is S-rank. Therefore I think we should keep them seperate. They are by the way both ninjutsu.--JadziaLover 15:36, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
i'm changing all references to "jutsus" to "jutsu", except for the actual name of the page, of course, which is probably a pain and definitely beyond my ability. maybe it can just point/forward to a new page Naruto_jutsu ? i think this page is big enough to be apart from the main naruto page but i don't think it warrants separate taijutsu/ninjutsu/genjutsu pages... --gb 02:39, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Organization
I think that it would be nice if jutsus were grouped with similar ones. Not in such broad groups as "Genjutsu," "Taijutsu" and "Ninjutsu" demand, but rather "Eye (I forgot the Romaji -- is it 'Douton'?) Techniques," "Summoning (Kuchiyose) Techniques," etc.
Problems:
- The broad categories are used in the manga and are well-known.
- Some alike jutsu (e.g. "Eye Techniques") are categorized into different broad categories. See: Byakugan, Mangekyō Sharingan and Sharingan.
Benefits:
- More organization.
- With sections, we could have an article for each type of technique, and shorten the descriptions and/or eliminate some of the less well-known jutsus in this main article, but keep them in their group articles.
Solutions?:
- Wikipedia categories. Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Taijatsu splitting up into Kuchiyose, Eye, etc.
- Template. I've been toying with the idea of a Naruto template for a while. The problem is that there is so much to be written, unless we only include main characters, jutsus, bloodline limits, etc, such as: Uzumaki Naruto, Haruno Sakura, Uchiha Sasuke, Hatake Kakashi, and then Sharingan, the sealing jutsu used by Yondaime and then Sandaime, etc.
I like this idea because:
- I think that a main article branching out to individual articles is a good idea. Then readers come to the hub (main article), find another article they would like to look more into, and cross-reference to it. Imagine the pain one must go through with this gigantic article to find their needle in a haystack!
--Iamunknown 07:23, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Topics such as puppet jutsu (currently a pathetic little blurb on this article) are getting broader by the week. --Lionelster 09:21, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Can we go ahead with splitting this article? Article size is slowing down page loading and editing. We should discuss how we're going to organize the splitage: 1) alphabetically, as it is now. 2) categorically.
I think #2 would be more intuitive. Jutsu can easily be put together as such: doton, katon, suiton, puppeteering (including descriptions of puppets), summoning (animals/hokages/weapons/etc), medical (including attacks), all of Kimimaro's goddamn bone dances, etc. Obviously some catagories will include nin- and genjutsu for example, so the jutsu can simply be indicated as such -- meanwhile the general descriptions of tai-, gen- and ninjutsu go to the top of the (main) Naruto Jutsu page. Discuss as well, if necessary, if clone jutsu (plain/water/shadow/bugs/etc) can be put together, for instance.
--Lionelster 06:26, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- The second option would be best. There are already some existing jutsu categories often used, e.g. Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Genjutsu, Bunshin ninjutsu, Iryō ninjutsu (Medical ninjutsu), Kuchiyose ninjutsu, Juin jutsu (Cursed seal jutsu), Fūin jutsu (Sealing techniques), Hiden jutsu (Secret clan techniques, e.g. Nara, Akimichi, Aburame...), Kekkei genkai, Henge ninjutsu...
- We could further categorize the jutsu if needed. For instance, we could put Gaara's jutsu in a seperate category. The same with Gai's and Lee's taijutsu (Konoha Senpū, Konoha Reppū, etc), Basic ninjutsu (e.g. Nawanuke and Kakuremino), Elemental jutsu (Katon, Suiton, etc.)--JadziaLover 09:14, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
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- You know what, splitting everything that far might be over the top. I foresee folks calling for all those disparate jutsu pages to be merged. Article size probably isn't a big issue anyway. However, the idea sounds great for organization within this page, naturally. It would look sorta like this:
- general description
- taijutsu
- genjutsu
- ninjutsu
- ranking
- general description
- (intuitive categorization begins...)
- basics
- kawarimi
- buunshin
- seals
- summoning
- items/puppets/weapons (scroll)
- kuchiyose
- animal
- dead folks
- elemental
- katon
- suiton
- medical
- puppeteering
- "gaijutsu" ;)
- etc...
- basics
- A LOT of work, yes. First things first: a consensus? Is this something we can all agree on? And then of course: who's gonna do it? How would a collaboration work? This would be a major overhaul project here. Discuss.
- --Lionelster 03:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- You know what, splitting everything that far might be over the top. I foresee folks calling for all those disparate jutsu pages to be merged. Article size probably isn't a big issue anyway. However, the idea sounds great for organization within this page, naturally. It would look sorta like this:
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- This sounds good. However, it would, of course, be important to properly classify the jutsu. For one, those weapon 'summons', like Tenten and Naruto do, are probably nothing more then simple sealed weapons (no blood is needed). And what exactly are the elemental jutsu? Are only those with Xton in front of their names elemental jutsu, or jutsu like Amaterasu and Kibaku Nendo also considered elemental jutsu--JadziaLover 12:24, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
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- "Elemental": those were your words, btw. The key here is intuitive, or obvious. Perhaps something like Amaterasu ought exclusively to be in a kekkei genkai category? Otherwise it's rather obvious it's a katon jutsu, so that's okay. And I don't think an umbrella "elemental" category is necessary; every Xton can be one each. Anyhow, you've exposed a con for this move, which is important to note: ambiguity.
- We can use "see also" links where there are secondary similarities among jutsu. E.g. the basic bunshin jutsu points to kagebunshin, bug bunshin, etc. elsewhere on the page.
- Btw, isn't bunshin no jutsu a genjutsu, instead of a ninjutsu? --Lionelster 01:59, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
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- "See also" links sound good, but wouldn't that make the page very big, and/or confusing?
- Bunshin no Jutsu is a regular ninjutsu technique. It uses the user's chakra to creates an image of the user. A Genjutsu uses the opponent's chakra against him.--JadziaLover 12:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
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My attempt at categorization follows. Yeah, it's long. Note the significant portion of the techniques which don't have even a vaguely defined category. Also, some techniques fit into one or more of my categories, and it's still a very rough categorization. The groups for the most part also supersede type (tai/ninjutsu), so that perhaps needs to go in the info header for each technique. --Pentasyllabic 05:11, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
bloodlines, clan/person-specific or otherwise distinctive ("Gaijutsu") 6.1 Byakugan (Evil Eye) 3.14 Juken (Gentle Fist) 3.9 Hakke Kusho (Eight Trigrams Empty Palm) 3.10 Hakke Rokujuyon Sho (Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms) 3.11 Hakke Hyaku Nijuhachi Sho (Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms) 3.12 Hakkesho Kaiten (Eight Trigram Palms Heavenly Spin) 3.28 Shugohakke Rokujuyon Sho (Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms) 5.9 Juin Jutsu (Hyuga Ichizoku Souke) (Cursed Seal Technique (Hyuga family Main House)) 6.2 Makyo Hyosho (Demonic Mirror Ice Crystals) 4.114 Sensatsu Suisho (Thousand Flying Water Needles of Death) (bloodline, or just a water jutsu?) 6.3 Mangekyō Sharingan (Kaleidoscope Copy Wheel Eye) 2.10 Tsukuyomi (Moon Reader) 4.3 Amaterasu (Shining Heaven) 6.4 Sharingan (Copy Wheel Eye) 3.27 Shishi Rendan (Lion Combo) (questionable?) 4.9 Chidori (One Thousand Birds) 4.99 Raikiri (Lightning Blade) 4.128 Sofushasan no Tachi (Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades) 2.6 Magen: Kyoten chiten (Demonic illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth change) 6.5 Shikotsumyaku (Dead Bone Pulse) 3.32 Teshi Sendan (Finger Bullet Drill) 3.33 Tessenka no Mai: Hana (Dance of the Clematis: Flower) 3.34 Tessenka no Mai: Tsuru (Dance of the Clematis: Vine) 3.35 Tsubaki no Mai (Dance of the Camellia) 3.16 Karamatsu no Mai (Dance of the Larch) 3.38 Yanagi no Mai (Dance of the Willow) 4.112 Sawarabi no Mai (Dance of the Seedling Fern) 3.1 Asakujaku (Morning Peacock) 3.4 Dainamikku-Entori (Dynamic Entry) 3.37 Ura Renge (Reverse Lotus) 3.15 Kage Buyo (Shadow of the Dancing Leaf) 3.17 Konoha Daisenpu (Leaf Great Whirlwind) 3.18 Konoha Gorikki Senpu (Leaf Strong Whirlwind) 3.19 Konoha Reppu (Leaf Gale) 3.20 Konoha Senpu (Konoha Hurricane) 3.21 Konoha Shofu (Leaf Rising Wind) 3.24 Omote Renge (Front Lotus) 3.29 Suiken (Drunken Fist) 4.4 Baika no Jutsu (The Art of Expansion) 4.5 Bubun Baika no Jutsu (Partial Multi Size Technique) 4.11 Chobaika no Jutsu (Butterfly Multi Size Technique) 3.3 Chodan Bakugeki(Bullet Butterfly Bombing) 3.22 Nikudan Hari Sensha (Spiked Human Bullet Tank) 3.23 Nikudan Sensha (Human Juggernaut) 3.5 Dainamikku Makingu (Dynamic Marking) 3.7 Garoga (Double Wolf Fang) 3.8 Gatsuga (Double Piercing Fang) 4.118 Shikyaku no Jutsu (Four Legs Technique) 4.42 Jinju Konbi Henge: Sotoro (Man Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf) 4.44 Jujin Bunshin (Beast Human Clone) 4.46 Kage Kubi Shibari no Jutsu (Shadow Neck Bind Technique) 4.48 Kagemane no Jutsu (The Art of Me-and-My-Shadow) 4.109 Satetsu (Iron Sand) 4.110 Satetsu Kaiho (Iron Sand World Order) 4.111 Satetsu Shigure (Iron Sand Drizzle) 4.61 Kibaku Nendo (Exploding Clay) 5.11 Shiki Fuin (Corpse Demon Seal) 4.34 Hiraishin no Jutsu (Flying Thunder God Technique) 4.97 Odama Rasengan (Great Ball Spiraling Sphere) 4.101 Rasengan (Spiraling Sphere) 5.7 Hakke no Fuin Shiki (Eight Trigrams Sealing Style) 5.13 Shisho Fuin (Four Symbols Seal) 5.10 Juin Jutsu (Orochimaru) (Cursed Seal Technique (Orochimaru)) 4.113 Seneijashu (Hidden Shadow Snake Hand) 4.129 Sojasosai no Jutsu (Twin Snakes Kill Each Other) 4.69 Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning: Impure World Resurrection) 4.93 Nan no Kaizo (Soft Physique Modification) 4.127 Shushagan no Jutsu (Vanishing Facial Copy Technique) 4.84 Kusanagi no Tsurugi: Ku no Tachi (Kusanagi Sword: Long Sword of the Heavens) 4.25 Fushi Tensei (Living Corpse Reincarnation) 4.26 Futon: Daitoppa (Wind Release: Great Breakthrough) 4.143 Suna Bunshin (Sand Doppelganger) 4.144 Suna no Tate (Shield of Sand) 4.145 Suna no Yoroi (Armour of Sand) 4.146 Suna Shigure (Sand Drizzle) 4.147 Suna Shuriken (Sand Shuriken) 4.13 Daisan no Me (Third Eye) 4.102 Ryusa Bakuryu (Quicksand in the Style of a Waterfall) 4.103 Sabaku Fuyu (Desert Suspension) 4.104 Sabaku Kyu (The Coffin of Crushing Sand) 4.105 Sabaku Soso (Imploding Sand Funeral) 4.106 Sabaku Taiso (Desert Imperial Funeral) 4.107 Sabakuro (Desert Prison) 4.108 Saiko Zettai Hogyo: Shukaku no Tate (Extreme Hard Ultimate Defense: Shield of Shukaku) 4.29 Gokusamaiso (Prison Sand Burial) 5 Fuin Jutsu (Sealing Techniques) 5.1 Fuin Jutsu: Genryu Kyu Fujin (Sealing Technique: Illusionary Dragon Nine Consuming Seals) 5.2 Fuja Hoin (Evil Sealing Method) 5.3 Fuka Hoin (Fire Sealing Method) 5.4 Fukoku Hoin (Black Sealing Method) 5.5 Gogyo Fuin (Five Elements Seal) 5.6 Gogyo Kaiin (Five Elements Unseal) 5.7 Hakke no Fuin Shiki (Eight Trigrams Sealing Style) 5.11 Shiki Fuin (Corpse Demon Seal) 5.12 Shikokumujin (Four Black Fog Battle Formation) 5.13 Shisho Fuin (Four Symbols Seal) Academy Basics 4.58 Kawarimi no Jutsu (Change of Body Technique) 4.94 Nawanuke no Jutsu (Rope Escape Technique) 4.7 Bunshin no Jutsu (Clone Jutsu) 4.32 Henge no Jutsu (Transformation Technique) 4.49 Kakuremino no Jutsu (Cloak of Invisibility Technique) 4.52 Katon: Gamayu Endan (Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet) 4.53 Katon: Gokakyu no Jutsu (Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique) 4.54 Katon: Hosenka no Jutsu (Fire Style - Art of the Phoenix Flower, the Touch-me-not) 4.55 Katon: Karyu Endan (Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet) 4.56 Katon: Ryuka no Jutsu (Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique) 4.134 Suiro no Jutsu (Water Prison Technique) 4.135 Suiton: Bakusui Shoha (Water Release: Exploding Water Shockwave) 4.136 Suiton: Daibakufu no Jutsu (Water Release: Great Waterfall Technique) 4.137 Suiton: Goshokuzame (Water Release: Five Eating Sharks) 4.138 Suiton: Suigadan (Water Release: Water Fang Bullet) 4.139 Suiton: Suijinheki (Water Release: Water Encampment Wall) 4.140 Suiton: Suikodan no Jutsu (Water Release: Water Shark Bullet Technique) 4.141 Suiton: Suiryudan no Jutsu (Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique) 4.142 Suiton: Teppodama (Water Release: Gunshot) 4.90 Mizu Bunshin no Jutsu (Water Doppelganger) 4.63 Kiri Gakure no Jutsu (Hiding Mist Technique) (questionable?) 4.16 Doton Kekkai: Dorodomu (Earth Release Barrier: Dungeon Chamber of Nothingness) 4.17 Doton: Dochu Eigyo no Jutsu (Earth Release: Underground Projection Fish) 4.18 Doton: Doroku Gaeshi (Earth Release: Earth Shore Return) 4.19 Doton: Doryu Dango (Earth Release: Earth Mausoleum Dumpling) 4.20 Doton: Doryuheki (Earth Release: Earth Release Wall) 4.21 Doton: Iwayado Kuzushi (Earth Release: Rock Lodging Destruction) 4.22 Doton: Retsudotensho (Earth Release: Split Earth Turn Around Palm) 4.23 Doton: Shinju Zanshu no Jutsu (Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique) 4.24 Doton: Yomi Numa (Earth Release: Swamp of the Underworld) 4.68 Kuchiyose: Doton: Tsuiga no Jutsu (Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique) 4.35 Hyoro no Jutsu (Ice Prison Technique) 4.36 Hyoton: Haryu Moko (Ice Release: Piercing Dragon Fierce Tiger) 4.37 Hyoton: Kokuryubo Fusetsu (Ice Release: Black Dragon Outburst Snowstorm) 4.38 Hyoton: Ikkaku Hakugei (Ice Release: One-Horned White Whale) 4.39 Hyoton: Roga Nadare no Jutsu (Ice Release: Wolf Fang Avalanche) 4.40 Hyoton: Tsubame Fubuki (Ice Release: Swallow Snow Storm) 4.26 Futon: Daitoppa (Wind Release: Great Breakthrough) 4.27 Futon: Mugen Sajin Daitoppa (Wind Release: Infinite Sand Cloud Great Breakthrough) 4.28 Futon: Renkudan (Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet) 4.50 Kamaitachi no Jutsu (Cutting Whirlwind Technique) 4.12 Daikamaitachi no Jutsu (Great Cutting Whirlwind Technique) 4.59 Kaze no Yaiba (Blade of Wind) 4.91 Mokuton Hijutsu: Jukai Kotan (Wood Release Secret Technique: Birth of Dense Woodland) 4.153 Zankuha (Decapitating Air Wave) 4.154 Zankukyokuha (Extreme Decapitating Air Waves) 4.85 Kyomeisen (Vibrating Sound Drill) Bunshin and related 3.2 Bunshin Taiatari (Clone Body Blow) 4.6 Bunshin Daibakuha (Clone Great Explosion) 4.7 Bunshin no Jutsu (Clone Jutsu) 4.30 Haremu no Jutsu (Harem Jutsu) 4.148 Taju Kage Bunshin no Jutsu (Multiple Shadow Clone Technique) 4.151 Uzumaki Naruto Nisen Rendan (Uzumaki Naruto Two Thousand Combo) 4.152 Uzumaki Naruto Rendan (Uzumaki Naruto Combo) 4.126 Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu (Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique) 4.115 Shihohappo Shuriken (Shuriken from All Directions) 4.92 Mushi Bunshin no Jutsu (Bug Clone Technique) 4.143 Suna Bunshin (Sand Doppelganger) 4.44 Jujin Bunshin (Beast Human Clone) 4.45 Kage Bunshin no Jutsu (Shadow Clone Jutsu) 4.90 Mizu Bunshin no Jutsu (Water Doppelganger) 4.89 Mikazuki no Mai (Dance of the Crescent Moon) 4.96 Oboro Bunshin no Jutsu (Haze Clone Technique) Henge and related 4.30 Haremu no Jutsu (Harem Jutsu) 4.32 Henge no Jutsu (Transformation Technique) 4.33 Henge: Kongonyoi (Transformation: Adamantine Staff) 4.65 Konbi Henge (Combination Transformation) 4.42 Jinju Konbi Henge: Sotoro (Man Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf) 4.98 Oiroke no Jutsu (Ninja Centerfold) Kuchiyose 4.67 Kuchiyose no Jutsu (Summoning Technique) 4.68 Kuchiyose: Doton: Tsuiga no Jutsu (Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique) 4.69 Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning: Impure World Resurrection) 4.70 Kuchiyose: Gamaguchi Shibari (Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind) 4.71 Kuchiyose: Kirikiri Mai (Summoning: Quick Beheading Dance) 4.72 Kuchiyose: Rashomon (Summoning: Rashomon) 4.73 Kuchiyose: Yatai Kuzushi no Jutsu (Summoning: Food Cart Destroyer Technique) 4.131 Soshoryu (Twin Rising Dragons) (questionable?) 3.6 Gama Dosuzan (Toad Sword Beheading) 4.52 Katon: Gamayu Endan (Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet) 4.155 Zesshi Nensan (Tongue Tooth Sticky Acid) 4.57 Katsuyu Daibunretsu (Slug Great Division) 4.66 Kongo Roheki (Adamantine Prison Wall) Medical, biological, etc. 4.10 Chikatsu Saisei no Jutsu (Healing Resuscitation Regeneration Technique) 4.15 Dokumeki no Jutsu (Poison Extraction Technique) 4.14 Dokugiri (Poison Mist) 4.41 Inyu Shometsu (Secret Healing Wound Destruction) 4.100 Ranshinsho (Important Body Points Disturbance) 4.25 Fushi Tensei (Living Corpse Reincarnation) 4.117 Shikon no Jutsu (Dead Soul Technique) 4.123 Shosen Jutsu (Mystical Palm Technique) 4.127 Shushagan no Jutsu (Vanishing Facial Copy Technique) 5.8 Infuin: Kai (Shadow Seal: Release) 4.133 Sozo Saisei (Creation Rebirth) 4.93 Nan no Kaizo (Soft Physique Modification) 4.124 Shoten no Jutsu (Shapeshifting Technique) 4.62 Kikaichu no Jutsu (Destruction Bug Host Technique) 4.69 Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning: Impure World Resurrection) 4.8 Chakura Kyuin Jutsu (Chakra Absorption Technique) (questionable?) 4.31 Hari Jizo (Spiked Jizo) (questionable?) 4.70 Kuchiyose: Gamaguchi Shibari (Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind) (questionable?) Mind-affecting (includes Genjutsu) genjutsu 2.1 Kasumi jusha no jutsu (Mist servant technique) 2.2 Kokuangyo no jutsu (Bringer-of-darkness technique) 2.3 Kori shinchu no jutsu (Sly mind affect technique) 2.4 Magen: Jubaku satsu (Demonic illusion: Tree bind death) 2.5 Magen: Kokoni arazu no jutsu (Demonic illusion: False surroundings technique) 2.6 Magen: Kyoten chiten (Demonic illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth change) 2.7 Magen: Narakumi no Jutsu (Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique) 2.8 Mateki: Mugenonsa (Demonic Flute: Dream Sound Chain) 2.9 Nehan Shoja no Jutsu (Temple of Nirvana Technique) non-genjutsu 4.119 Shinranshin no Jutsu (Mind Body Disturbance Technique) 4.120 Shintenshin no Jutsu (Art of the Valentine) 4.51 Kanashibari no Jutsu (Temporary Paralysis Technique) 4.149 Tanuki Neiri no Jutsu (Feigning Sleep Technique) Sound Four stuff (they just have too many techniques, thanks to a certain spider, to not have a category for.) 4.60 Kekkai Hojin (Barrier Encampment Method) 4.122 Shishienjin (Four Violet Flames Battle Encampment) 5.10 Juin Jutsu (Orochimaru) (Cursed Seal Technique (Orochimaru)) 5.12 Shikokumujin (Four Black Fog Battle Formation) 4.75 Kumo Mayu (Spider Cocoon) 4.76 Kumo Nenkin (Spider Sticky Gold) 4.77 Kumo Nento (Spider Sticking Spit) 4.78 Kumo Shibari (Spider Bind) 4.79 Kumo Senkyu: Susaku (Spider War Bow: Terrible Split) 4.80 Kumo Soiki (Spider Web Area) 4.81 Kumo Soka (Spider Web Flower) 4.82 Kumo Sokai (Spider Web Unfold) 4.2 Amagumo (Rain of Spiders) 4.95 Nenkin no Yoroi (Armour of Sticky Gold) 4.86 Makyo no Ran (War of Evil Men) 4.87 Mateki: Genbuso Kyoku (Demon Flute: Illusionary Warriors Manipulating Melody) 2.8 Mateki: Mugenonsa (Demonic Flute: Dream Sound Chain) 3.30 Tarenken (Multiple Connecting Punches) 3.31 Tarenkyaku (Multiple Connecting Kicks) 4.64 Kisei Kikai no Jutsu (Parasite Demon Demolition Technique) 4.130 Soma no Ko (Double Demon Attack) 4.72 Kuchiyose: Rashomon (Summoning: Rashomon) 3.25 Rakanken (Achiever of Nirvana Fist) 4.16 Doton Kekkai: Dorodomu (Earth Release Barrier: Dungeon Chamber of Nothingness) 4.19 Doton: Doryu Dango (Earth Release: Earth Mausoleum Dumpling) 4.18 Doton: Doroku Gaeshi (Earth Release: Earth Shore Return) Puppeteering 4.74 Kugutsu no Jutsu (Puppet Technique) 4.83 Kurohigi Kiki Ippatsu (Black Secret Technique Machine One Shot) 4.121 Shiro Higi: Jikki Chikamatsu no Shu (White Secret Technique: Ten Puppet Group of Chikamatsu) 4.1 Aka Higi: Hyakki no Soen (Red Secret Technique: Performance of a Hundred Puppets) uncategorized Taijutsu 3.13 Hien (Flying Swallow) 3.26 Sennen Goroshi (One Thousand Years of Death) 3.36 Tsutenkyaku (Painful Sky Leg) uncategorized Ninjutsu 4.43 Joro Senbon (It's Raining Needles From Heaven) 4.47 Kage Shuriken no Jutsu (Shadow Shuriken Technique) 4.88 Meisai Gakure no Jutsu (Hiding Camouflage Technique) 4.116 Shikomishindan (Prepared Needle Shot) 4.125 Shunshin no Jutsu (Body Flicker Technique) 4.132 Soshuha (Manipulating Attack Blades) 4.150 Tomegane no Jutsu (Telescope Technique)
This looks very good, but I have a couple of comments ^^
Wouldn't Hiraishin belong to person-specific jutsu?
I don't think Gamaguchi belongs in the Medical/biological category
I don't think Shishi rendan should be under Sharingan
Is Sensatsu Suisho specific to Haku's bloodline?
Juin jutsu are not Fuuin jutsu
I don't really consider Gaara's sand jutsu to be elemental
Which brings me, once again, to the important question, what is an elemental jutsu?--JadziaLover 12:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
- I thought Sensatsu Suisho was using Haku's bloodline to control the water; it doesn't help that most Suiton techniques do about the same thing, only with chakra instead of bloodlines. Juin jutsu are listed under Fuin on the main page. I suppose that Hiraishin could be categorized with the Rasengans. As for "elemental jutsu", I don't have a clear answer... Temari's attacks are wind-based but don't have a Futon: in front, are they considered elemental wind attacks?
- Another possible category is forbidden jutsu, there's a few of those. --Pentasyllabic 17:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Sweet. Just the way I'd picture it: clan/individual/bloodline-specific whenever possible. I see duplicate entries though. Must rectify that. Like I said, we can drop the "elemental" category. Sand and wind are categories on their own, and yes, Temari's attacks are futon. It's just obvious. Forbidden jutsu and other general terms like doujutsu should go in "general description" along with gen/nin/taijutsu, and jutsu that are such are labeled as such. --Lionelster 07:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- I don't see how Temari's attacks are Futon since she uses her fan to control, more of less, the wind. Anyways, I think that Sakura Fubuki no Jutsu should not be listed in Ninjutsu, it is more of a Taijutsu since it really doesn't use chakra, if a jutsu at all, EDIT: I think we might just put a little tag next to each jutsu like if it is a medical jutsu put [MEDICAL] next to it and on the list so that someone can easily scim the list and be like "OH! MEDICAL! I WANT!" yes, no? --Anyr 19:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Names of sections
I'm getting really tired of all this constant renaming. There are many page on wikipedia that refer back to this page, but half the time the links are broken because the technique headings CONSTANTLY change. Let's get a concensus, please. How are we naming the techniques? Is it Japanese name first (English name) or English name (japanese name)? I personally prefer Japanese Name (English Name) mainly because this is an ANIME done in JAPAN, and we should do our best to preserve this. Yes, I know the English names are "official" viz translations, but when we translate Kage Bunshin no Jutsu to Art of the Doppelganger, we have to look at ourselves and say "WTF, mate?".
THEREFORE, let it be known that from this day forth, we need a concensus. That is all. I like rabbits.
P.S.: I'm also going to stick the cleanup tag up on this article now.
Hobbeslover 16:33, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Hobbeslover I completely agree with you, Japanese Name (English Name) should indeed be used in my opinion. Most people use the Japanese names and, if I'm not mistaken, even Viz is using them together with the English names they came up with. That and you are right, it is a Japanese Manga/Anime we should use the original and not some translation, no matter how 'official' this translation is. --JadziaLover 19:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
"Japanese Name (English Name) mainly because this is an ANIME done in JAPAN,"
And because of this Pokemon should use all of the Japanese names despite the fact that it would throw off everyone who is not familiar with them. Besides, your reasons for hating the American translation are flimsy. Look up the definition of a Doppelganger sometime. And the reason things are "changing" so much is partly due to anonymous users editing. Also, some attacks don't have English names yet. Now, Viz has started to use the Japanese attack names and Japanese item named together with English. However, "clones" are still regularly rendered as doppelgangers. Besides, the anime is coming out in September, so we should wait to see what the anime does. WhisperToMe 21:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Hobbeslover and JadziaLover. We should prefer the original Japanese names over the English names. WhisperToMe, this encyclopædia isn't only used in the US. I come from the Netherlands and I always use the English Wikipedia. The anime is being released in the US, not in the rest of the world. I believe the majority of the Naruto fans prefer the Japanese names, so please think about that. Also, don't compare Naruto with Pokemon. Naruto has gathered a huge fanbase all over the world while it hasn't even been released in most of those countries. Pokemon only got popular after it had been released in English, that is why everyone knows the English names better then the Japanese names. --Love Gaara 23:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
I hate how its so anti-US centric sometimes. Yea, it's not US-only, but it's not Japan-only either. See, the USA and Canada (yes, these books are sold in Canada as well) are the only countries in the world with English-language Naruto books, so we use their translations, et al.
" I come from the Netherlands and I always use the English Wikipedia. The anime is being released in the US, not in the rest of the world. I believe the majority of the Naruto fans prefer the Japanese names, so please think about that. "
And the majority of people in the Netherlands speak Dutch. And the Dutch don't have their own Naruto release so they are free to use the Japanese names. See, on the English Wikipedia, we have a tendency to cater to the cultures of the US, Canada, India, Australia, the UK, and New Zealand, and we always will. We use English-language release names of numerous anime series for this reason. Also, English-language manga series in Europe are usually imported from the United States.
Think about the casual masses who know nothing about Naruto. This is not solely a Narutoencyclopedia.
WhisperToMe 23:30, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Most people prefer the Japanese names and this goes for people from the US, Canada, India, Australia, the UK, and New Zealand too. Even Viz is starting to use them! I don't see any reason not to use the Japanese names. About the 'casual masses', if they don't know anything about Naruto, the Japanese names are as much use to them as the English.--JadziaLover 23:58, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Now, I'm actually okay with "Japanese (English)" format for headers, so go ahead and change that aspect if you wish. WhisperToMe 00:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Alright then "Japanese (English)" it will be. P.S. what made you change your mind WhisperToMe? --Love Gaara 00:25, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Because the English is still in there. WhisperToMe 00:35, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Lol, for some reason, I expected Jadzia and Whsiper to respond to this. BTW, Whisper, I know what doppelganger means, but it just sounds so GAY. They could have avoided the awkwardness sounding of it all and went with Shadow Clones or something, but that's not what the debate is about. So we've reached a concensus, yay.
Hobbeslover 03:37, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Is the sexy jutu in this artical? Even though I'm not signed in this is still a little moronic-seeming to ask... --70.104.128.131 11:49, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Yes, it is. --Pentasyllabic 19:08, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
I know some spoken Japanese which is why I prefer Japanese names anyway. English names will always be translations and translations are only perfect maybe 10% of the time. -Iopq 02:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] formatting, &c.
I started some downcasing in section headings to conform to Wikipedia:Manual of Style; clearly more is needed. Also, what's with the section levels? "Basic information" is TOO BIG! Michael Hardy 21:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] New jutsu
What on Earth is Mushi Kabe no Jutsu? I've never heard of it. Has it only appeared in the anime?--JadziaLover 09:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yup, I believe it appeared in several episodes back, in one of those 'filler episodes' --An 00:55, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Wow, this page ...
I almost cannot believe the length of this page. Naruto is getting ridiculous. --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 01:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Characters of Naruto is longer :P #27 on the longest pages list, while this page is #58. Nobody really has any good ideas for how to split either of these articles though... --Pentasyllabic 02:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wow, that list of characters is just ... wow. I have a newfound hatred for long-running anime series that just don't know when to call it quits. Or at least anime series that unnecessarily inject dozens of throw-away characters (and each of which is slightly longer than the last so that they always pose a challenge to the hero). --Cyde Weys talk;contribs 02:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- The problem is that the character list shows even characters that appeared and died in the same chapter. As for this list, put yourself in a common user place. You may have heard about Naruto, and come here to learn what Naruto is. But you won't come to know what Jikki Chikamatsu no Shu or White Secret Technique: Ten Puppet Group of Chikamatsu is. Heck, you probably won't know how to spell it. This information is very technical, and does not fit the encyclopedia. It fits a Wikibook better. Thus, I think this article should be moved to a Wikibook. -- ReyBrujo 02:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wow, that list of characters is just ... wow. I have a newfound hatred for long-running anime series that just don't know when to call it quits. Or at least anime series that unnecessarily inject dozens of throw-away characters (and each of which is slightly longer than the last so that they always pose a challenge to the hero). --Cyde Weys talk;contribs 02:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] redirect?
I'm going to redirect Naruto Jutsu's to this page, unless anyone has any objections. --Pentasyllabic 00:35, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- Please do, and do it quickly. I hate it when people think Henge and Bunshin are Genjutsu ^^--JadziaLover 01:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- Done. --Pentasyllabic 18:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Images of the attacks?
Nevermind, I found the link of the techniques images: http://www.naruto-kun.com/naruto+jutsus.html
--Datavi X 10:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- I believe we should have like links from the name of the jutsu to a mini-clip of the attack to further explain this, I know www.naruto-kun.com has quite a few clips of the jutsu. Who thinks this would be a cool/good idea? --Anyr 19:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Yay! We have some images for the attacks! So, we better get uploadin more! =P --Datavi X 18:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What the...
When I clicked on the link to view the Ninjutsu, it just redirects me to the main Naruto article...
Could this be solved? =\
--Datavi X 17:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nine cursed seals?
"There are a total of nine cursed seals. Earth, heaven, etc."
So what are the other seven? --Pentasyllabic 22:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- I never heard of there being nine Juin... --JadziaLover 16:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't think they have been shown in the manga yet, though I have not read a lot of them. --Anyr 19:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)-- Anyr
[edit] Idea that will help everyone...
I loved back when the jutsu's were all in the same article, but now that they are seperated they are kind of difficult to find. I propose that we fuse all the jutsu's together into one article with all of the jutsu, and still have the individual articles. What do you peoples think? --Anyr 19:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- A single article becomes too long, that was why it was splitted. In fact, I am not sure if the Naruto jutsu should be in Wikipedia or in a Wikibook or Wikiguide instead. Having small and long articles can't be done, since it is much harder to have both branches synchronized. -- ReyBrujo 20:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jutsus
This subject section is for the jutsu that you think should be somewhere else or not listed as a jutsu at all. I think that the Shikomishindan (Prepared Needle Shot) should not be counted as a Ninjutsu since it doesn't involve chakra, from what I can see, at all. It should be considered a Taijutsu or maybe a special class of "Weapon Jutsu" or something, but it just uses a weapon and doesn't really use chakra. Add a comment to this if you find another jutsu that should either be moved or somethign such as that. --Anyr 19:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- This is quite a good idea ^^ There are some jutsu I don't think should be listed.
- Under Taijutsu, there is Hayabusa Otoshi (Peregrine Falcon Drop).
- Under Ninjutsu, there are Chakura Kyuin Jutsu (Chakra Absorption Technique), Fukumikuchi Hari (Hidden Mouth Needles), and Muon Satsujin Jutsu (Silent Homicide Technique).
- All of these 'jutsu' are not considered jutsu by the data books and, as such, should not be listed as jutsu. Also, I think all the jutsu that are anime only should be double checked. Although most of them seem right, some of them have wrong kanji (i.e. Fusajin no Jutsu (Dust Wind Technique)), or impossible translations (i.e. Hi no Hagane (Wings of the Sun))
- I also think the entries for Kekkei Genkai on Naruto jutsu should be removed, since they have their own article (Kekkei genkai (Naruto)).
- ~卍 JadziaLover 会話~投稿 卐~ 19:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
A bit off topic but I've not heard of any of these Jutsu listed above except Chakura Kyuin Jutsu... Is it just me or is Naruto getting a few more techniques? =\
--Datavi X 17:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
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- They are all listed in the ninjutsu ect. (^_^) --Anyr
- I think the hidden mouth needles is because it uses chakra, atleast I think it does, to draw needles into the mouth, or possibly it might be a summoning thing. Though the databooks might not be updated to the current ones, but I don't know. I can't read the databooks since they aren't in English. --Anyr
[edit] jutsu from Naruto games
Do they really deserve to be listed? --Pentasyllabic 04:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures of the Hand Seals?
Would it be a good idea to have a picture of the 12 hand seal symbols? I'd be happy to contibute the images form the manga... Yllianos 04:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] hidden jutsu
There are many jutsus listed with the type hiden, did everyone forget to spellcheck? The word is spelt hidden, not hiden. All of these references need to be edited. Everyone should help fix this. photodude 07:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- We have a note regarding this. The correct trasliteration of the term is "Hiden", which means secret. Please read the section. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Secret; mystery; secret formula (秘伝 hiden?) –Gunslinger47 03:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I don't know what trasliteration perhaps you meant transliteration missing a letter makes a difference in understanding. In the same way hiden is not hidden. hiden is not a word and does not mean anything other then someone doesn't know how to spell in the English/American language. Where as hidden is a word, Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) hid·den –adjective
- 1. concealed; obscure; covert: hidden meaning; hidden hostility.
- –verb 2. pp. of hide.
- —Related forms
- hid·den·ly, adverb
- hid·den·ness, noun
- —Synonyms 1. secret, veiled; occult.
- Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
- Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
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- A bunch of random people getting together and writing hiden means secret; does not make it a word, correct spelling, or a transliteration. Hidden most closely means secret photodude 07:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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- You seem to misunderstand... 秘伝 -> 秘 "hi" 伝 "den" -> "Hiden". This is a transliteration from the Japanese. The definition of "Hiden" is secret, mystery, secret formula which just happens to be similar to the English word "hidden". --Pentasyllabic 07:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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- You should be able to understand my context fine. No need to go off on a rant about a typo. Like Pent said, hiden is the "Japanese" term, which seems to have gone over your head at the moment. We don't use secret or hidden because these specific ranks and such don't have an English translation. Until we get a non-scantalated databook, it'll have to do. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Chakra Elements
I don't know if there already is a section and I cannot find it, but I suggest that an article is created to describe all the different chakra elements. As in their strengths, their weaknessess, and some of the main characters who correspond with each chakra element. Such as how Naruto has wind chakra, and the strength of wind chakra is it's ability to "blow past anything and slice things to bits.", as Kakashi had put it. Mihangel 00:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Jutsu (Naruto)#Chakra *taps nose twice* – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
On a similer subject, when did Yamato say that light and dark chakras exist? Lascoden 01:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- Whenever they started that little lesson in the first place. He mentions it when Naruto asks about medical techniques. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
On another note, when it srticle says "Certain kekkei genkai can also create unique elements, such as wood and ice, through a mixture of the basic elements, which normal ninja are incapable of doing." I am not sure if this is true. What about when Naruto and Yamato mixed elements to make the maelstrom technique? I believe it was Naruto who used the actual technique, not Yamato 142.167.164.18 23:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- That was a combo attack, not a mix. Yamato and Naruto combined their attacks to form a new one. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sharingan
Sorry if I'm doing this wrong this is my first time in a discussion. I've heard that the Sharingan is called, quote Sasuke, "visual jutsu, or Doujutsu" (or something) from the dubbed version. Is this something to be noted?
- Kekkei genkai#Sharingan. It's already noted. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Shinobi Tactical Knowledge
I think we should rank the jutsu according to their number
First Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Taijutsu
Second Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Genjutsu
Third Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Ninjutsu
219.74.37.193 21:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- I don't believe that's an official order. You're referring to the ordered list that Kakashi gave during the bell tests, right? –Gunslinger47 22:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)