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Enjoy Your Time, Bdude (talk)

This edit [1] was made without consensus. We have decided to use "Merry Go". WhisperToMe 14:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Please remember that in the English Wikipedia, names used by official English publications are to be used over how they're spelled in Japanese publications, with Japanese and other alternative spellings following it. (Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)). The Splendiferous Gegiford 17:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
To answer your question to me, and to address them, I direct your attention to [this]

[edit] Devil Fruits

Yo! Just asking you not to go in and change the Devil Fruit names for One Piece right now. We have a discussion going on over how the page should be set out (see discussion page). Can you wait until its over before stepping in and changing it? I've just told Geg the same thing (I was also gonna tell you earlier but forgotUser_talk:Geg#Whoa.21). Yeah. Not saying don't change them, just wait a while until everythings been decided okay?  ;) Angel Emfrbl 16:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


Folks, what is said in the Wikiproject, from what I know, cannot be considered "policy" - Just a guideline!

The true policy is at: Wikipedia:Manual of Style for Japan-related articles WhisperToMe 01:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

From much of my experience, much of it IS policy. Try to deviate from the format used for Japanese people names, and other editors may revert.

Also, I saw the discussion on the Wikiproject page - Not all editors agree with the "fans determine the usage" - I'll let Zoro be a stalemate - I do plan to change Merry Go ASAP, though. WhisperToMe 01:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Berries

"(diff) (hist) . . Roronoa Zoro‎; 02:36 . . Justyn (Talk | contribs | block) (Berries to Belli)"

How do you know Eiichiro Oda intended "Belli"? Where does it say that? WhisperToMe 02:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Then it looks like Oda hasn't or could not decide which to use. It also looks like that the fanbase has not even chosen a particular spelling consistently at all, right? I would stick with "Berries" if I were you, and then describe the romanization issue in a section of One Piece somewhere. WhisperToMe 02:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

By the way, some of the name changes in the English versions go WAY before the dub - So I don't see in particular why people upset with the dub should be upset with them in particular. WhisperToMe 02:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Name changes in OP are not unique to the US/Canada versions at all; The French changed Usopp's name to Pipo and Sanji's to Sandy. The Germans changed Luffy to Ruffy and use Lorenor Zorro. The Greeks changed just about every name. I am okay with some of the OP name changes, but not all of them (i.e. Zoro, albiet I feel like the change may have been inevitable) - IMO, though, I feel like it's Wikipedia's duty to use (at least for the most part) English-language version names to cater to the "average Joe" - Not too many typical Americans, British, etc. watch fansubs or know about them. WhisperToMe 03:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

"(diff) (hist) . . Roronoa Zoro‎; 03:15 . . Justyn (Talk | contribs | block) (How is it a fan name when Oda has written it as "Belli"?)"

Then it's Engrish, because Oda also wrote it as "Beli" - That's inconsistent.

Also, Geg and I chose to use "Atem" instead of "Atemu" in YGO articles partly because Geg and I decided that "Atemu" was most likely Engrish.

WhisperToMe 03:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

By the way, Oda hasn't consistently spelled Berries, so I cannot trust his judgement for the naming. I know that sounds sacreligious, but that's the truth. WhisperToMe 03:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

The MOS was referring to words, not names. See, I tried using the MOS with the Tessaiga debate with InuYasha. That didn't work. WhisperToMe 04:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

"And even with all of the variations, we can be sure that Oda has never actualy actualy written it as "Berries" or "Berry"."

VIZ uses Berries. WhisperToMe 04:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I am referring to Wikipedia:Manual of Style for Japan-related articles... WhisperToMe 04:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fish-Men/Fishmen

Why does it have '-' when Mermen doesn't? Well Mermen is already a renouned fantasy species and Fishmen are not. I have a much more detail explaination I would go into but I don't want to argue over such a small change. Angel Emfrbl 05:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[2]

Do you have consensus to make such changes? I am telling you right here and right now that I am opposed to the blanket changes here. WhisperToMe 00:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

"f you mean the "Shichibukai" thing, then it's because the page itself uses "Shichibukai", almost all of the One Piece pages use "Shichibukai", the guidelines on the matter say "Shichibukai" should be used."

I meant most of the changes in general (including "Berries" to "Belli") - But, the thing is, it *was* Seven Warlords of the Sea - Some other user moved it without my knowledge. WhisperToMe 01:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

In fact, you moved it [3], saying it was Wikipedia policy. WhisperToMe 01:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Wknight94 probably moved it with no knowledge of the debate; all he did was do something you asked for. He did NOT stop and consider the case. Did you disclose to him that this was being contested? WhisperToMe 01:46, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I moved the page because there were no good arguments against moving it and the arguments for it were solid. Do you want to explain more? —Wknight94 (talk) 02:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requested_moves SPECIFICALLY states that it is to be used for uncontroversial moves. User:Geg and I had opposed the moving stuff, so... WhisperToMe 02:49, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

If I didn't mention that sooner, I guess I should have, though. I told Geg about this... I assume he'll be against it too, since he was against Zoro being at Zoro. WhisperToMe 03:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

"(To WhisperToMe) The Nintendo evidence you cited is erelivent, Nintendo owns all of those, and Nintendo changed the name of Nintento's Japanese name "Rockman" to "Megaman". Nintendo changed the name of Nintendo's "Famicon" and "Super Famicon" systems to "Nintendo Entertainment System", and "Super Nintendo Entertainment System"."

Shueisha paid VIZ Media money to produce the English-language OP editions. Shueisha endorses VIZ's changes. In fact, VIZ is half-owned by Shueisha. In other words, Shueisha allowed and supported the name changes :) WhisperToMe 20:16, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Administrational assistance with a repeat vandal

The annonymus user "66.69.239.148" has repeatedly vandalised the pages : Creatures of Magic: The Gathering, and Paintball, he has been warned, and continues to vandalise, would you be able to temporaraly, or permenently block him from editing those pages? (Justyn 17:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC))

That IP vandalized only three times yesterday and stopped immediately after the most recent warning so he seems to have blocked himself in a manner of speaking. If s/he returns, by all means, leave an entry at WP:AIV. —Wknight94 (talk) 18:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DON

From your comments on the one-piece attack article -You will notice that I used swearwords in my post, this was not to insult the people on the side of deleting; this was to enphisize my point; I said that I would be commenting with a DON.

what's a DON? --Charlesknight 09:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editing votes on AfD for One Piece Attacks

Do not edit other users' votes in deletion discussions; it is considered vandalism. If you disagree with the reasoning behind another user's vote, you can feel free to discuss their decision with them. Zetawoof(ζ) 02:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One Piece attacks

I have temporarily undeleted the One Piece attacks page for you to copy it to Wikia. Please do this as soon as possible and then mark the page for speedy deletion, or ask any administrator on their talk page to delete it for you. Thryduulf 15:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Something you might be interested in

Please go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Dragon Ball special abilities to share your opinion. Hydromasta231 07:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dark Yugi's Japanese name

"# (diff) (hist) . . Yu-Gi-Oh!‎; 04:41 . . Justyn (Talk | contribs | block) (遊戯王 cannot be literaly translated as "King of Games", due to the absence of the particle "の" "no". Also, a literal translation means you translate WHAT IS THERE.)"

That reminds me - I've seen instances of Dark Yugi's Japanese name with AND without the "の" "no", BUT the name itself remains the same. Same with Fujiwara-no-Sai and other Heian figures. WhisperToMe 06:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amputations/Tourniquets etc.

Hey - article looks fine as it is now, just thought I'd explain the thing about reversible amputations. A medically required amputation is not normally reversed, you're right - which is why someone who has an amputation following a tourniquet has had a permanent amputation: as you say, the limb is dead. In the case, though, of traumatic amputation (e.g. someone gets their arm in the meat slicer) there is scope for reattachment, which has a variable survival rate. That's why I felt it was important to keep the "permanent amputation" in. --John24601 06:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yu-Gi-Oh!

  • Ooops! ^_^ I should probably go to bed, but... ^_^ Danny Lilithborne 06:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dracule Mihawk

Sorry, dude, but it must go to Dracule. Wikipedia:Google test states that incorrect names may not be used.

You must prove that Juraquille is correct. Otherwise, it must go.

And before you cite something else, I cite the Tessaiga debate (even though Tetsusaiga is technically correct as it is officially used. WhisperToMe 05:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

"Further judgment: the Google test checks popular usage, not correctness. For example, a search for the incorrect Charles Windsor gives 10 times more results than the correct Charles Mountbatten-Windsor."

Unless Oda specifically spells this guy's name as Juraquille in English, the name's incorrect. While, AFAIK, Oda never uses Dracule either, Dracule is official (as the VIZ manga uses it), so it's the only choice available. WhisperToMe 05:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Also see Talk:One Piece WhisperToMe 06:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Your sense of logic confuses me. If the bounty isn't out, why even bother writing it out? I'm sick of spoilers ruining hopes, even hidden text will give the wrong idea to a editor here. If its not written as fact we should reframe from posting ANYTHING on wikipedia at all. even *Maybes*. I don't 100% like it either, buts that it. Angel Emfrbl 17:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
BTW... Don't we have user talk pages to talk on? Come on talk to me there rather then the eidt summery... I don't bite. ;) Angel Emfrbl 18:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah! sorry I misunderstood somewhat who did the text. Its better to remove it until proven otherwise. BTw, we have avandal running around the pages right now. I'm keeping an eye on him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/163.153.236.3 he seems to have moved on to other pages now thankfully, but we were the target at least 3 times today. Angel Emfrbl 18:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delete happy

Increditable isn't it... I put up one article for delete until the wrong tag and the delete happy member who corrected my deletation tag went around and put up everything he could...

This sort of thing drives you mad no? Consider we started out with one article that really needed deleteing and the others we did not. This has happened before when someone put one of the articles up for deletation. It makes you reluctant to to put things up for deletation on wikipedia for the fear of the outcome. Angel Emfrbl 13:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sins: Venials

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[edit] Zoro/Zolo Rant

Mate i have to say that was one good rant you had done on the zoro/zolo fight

nice work

one good rant indeed Rocks Lotus 11:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing is not enough

Okay this is a major problem with all of us on the One Piece pages. We remove vandalism but we rarely take action against them. After the recent heavy vandalism from one person on our minor characters page I reported him and found while I presumed my fellow mmebers would have taken the actions already, they had not. Okay I jumped ahead of myself and made myself look a fool, but I tend to be too impatient here and make that mistake often.

I've been wanring people of IP adresses and still we get the same set of IPs coming back. The problem is not the vandals completely, but also those involed as editors. Listen, reverting or removing a vandal edit is just not enough. There are other steps too we need to take otherwise people won't get the message. Check the IP adresses talk page then refer to this page for futher action: Wikipedia:Vandalism.

We need to get into this habbit of trying to prevent vandals. As I mentioned with the minor characters page, we can't ban a person until they get a level 3 status, so there is nothing we can do about the IP adress there. Angel Emfrbl 21:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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