Talk:Jungle Carbine

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just a suggestion - but shouldn't this be moved in with the rest of the Lee-Enfield/SMLE article? TSR2 20:25, 29 July 2005 (UTC)


Removed the comment "The flash supressor is considered to have been nearly useless for reducing the increased flash associated with the shortened barrel", as it's not factually correct- a Jungle Carbine (with flash suppressor) does not flash nearly as much as comparable carbines (like the Mosin-Nagant M44). The purpose of the Flash Hider is simply to prevent the firer from being dazzled, not prevent the muzzle-flash entirely. --Commander Zulu 06:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] on scavenging ammunition

New Zealanders used the jungle carbine in the vietnam war. i'm told that it could use many types of ammunition because the NZers were so badly equipped they needed to use Austrailian, American, and even NVA ammo! is this true?

--Waxi skanki 10:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)Waxi_skanki

Untrue. The Jungle Carbine is chambered for the .303 British cartridge, and in unmodified form will not chamber or fire any other ammo. Of course, it's not outside the realms of possibility that the VC had converted captured WWII arms to 7.62x39. More importantly, the NZ Military was equipped with the L1A1 SLR by the time of the Vietnam War, and as far as I am aware, the only Enfields taken into action would have been carried by individual soldiers who were using WWII vintage ammo, or maybe commercial target ammo. Either way, the Jungle Carbine wasn't an official issue weapon to either the Australian or NZ militaries during Vietnam, to the best of my knowledge. --Commander Zulu 10:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] jungle carbine chambered in 308

I have a jungle carbine that is chambered in 308, is this original?, as the stampings are original and not overstriked. The markings are on the right side receiver band under bolt. It states "RIFLE 7.62mm2A1, RFI 1966" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.208.90.161 (talk) 03:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

No, your rifle isn't original- it's a sporterised Rifle 7.62mm 2A1. RFI is "Rifle Factory, Ishapore". Jungle Carbines were only ever made in .303 British calibre by Royal Ordnance Factory Fazakarely and BSA Shirley, both of which are in the UK, with the exception of a few experimental models produced at SAF Lithgow in Australia. --Commander Zulu 10:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Renaming

I think it might be worth bringing this article into line with the new guideline/conventions for naming of British/Commonwealth Military Firearms, and renaming this article Lee-Enfield Jungle Carbine. Whilst the rifle's name is technically Rifle, No. 5 Mk I it is almost never called that outside academic works, generally being referred to simply as the "Jungle Carbine". The Lee-Enfield disambiguator is necessary to associate this rifle with the rest of the Lee-Enfield family of rifles, hence it's inclusion in the proposed new title. --Commander Zulu 05:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)