Talk:Juilliard School
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spelled it wrong. (Should be "Juilliard".. not "Juillard".) -Jazz77
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[edit] Kyle Gass
I'm removing Kyle Gass from the list of alumni. There seems to be no evidence he attended other than his and Jack Black's claims; furthermore, Juilliard didn't have a "classical guitar" program until quite recently.
[edit] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from Juilliard?
The article says that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a graduate of the The Juilliard School Pre-College. Considering who he is and that his article suggests that he has always lived in Iran, I'm suspicious about the factuality of this statement.
- - Be bold! If you doubt the claim, then investigate further, or edit the article. All up, you're probably right since you took the time to comment! Good luck. Rob (Talk) 12:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Yo-Yo MA
I wonder if he should be included in the graduates list since he only attended pre-college.
[edit] The Juilliard School Pre-College
I've put a merge notice on The Juilliard School Pre-College with this article, as it was a bit of an orphan. If anyone editing this article feels like doing the merge..... Leithp 22:01, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
- Did it myself. Leithp 17:39, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Ronnie James Dio?
I have read biographies of former Elf/Rainbow/Black Sabbath singer (and current solo artist) Ronnie James Dio that says he is a graduate of Juilliard. Can anyone confirm this? The biographies I've read said that he acquired his phenomenal vocal range from his Juilliard trumpet training.--MarshallStack 06:24, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Grammer
Should Kelsey Grammer be listed under the "students" section? I think he was expelled, but he was still a student.
[edit] Documentary
Several years ago, there was a documentary made (I forget the name), and among the more interesting things that the documentary discussed was that the vast majority of Juliard alumni don't make it big, but rather return to their hometowns to teach music locally. (I remember this as my high school orchestra teacher recieved both his degree, and masters in viola preformance from Juliard).
Worth mentioning in article, I'll try to find out somemore info.
Zidel333 06:11, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Why is this notable? Isn't this true of every school?
It is notable in the case of Juilliard because of its reputation as the best music school in the US. At one time, it was assumed by the general public that graduating from Juilliard assured a top career in Music. Although I have not seen it, this documentary would help put this widely held myth in perspective. A year or two ago the New York Times published a similar story which made the front page in the Arts and Leisure section. A story that said that many graduates of Manhattan School of Music did not make it big in music would not have made the front page of that section. Juilliard is another story.
On another note, this phenomenon is a symptom of larger issues with the Music world in general--reduced audience sizes, orchestras folding, salaries increasing, etc, etc. But that is a whole other issue. Nymaestro 06:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pre-College Division
Can someone fill in the date when Andrew Thomas started directing the program. It is currently "( )" and should be removed if there is no date.
Post Mon. July 24
[edit] Cory Rivard?
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- In the year 2000, a visitor from Winnipeg, Canada named Cory Rivard, secretly lived in the Juilliard dorms for approximately 1 school year. While there, though never enrolled, he attended classes, ate from other student's meal plans, and even dated some of the students. Controversy ensued when student Spencer Topel, rumored to be jealous of Cory's status at the school, finally alerted Juilliard Security, and then finally the Dean. Cory was eventually kicked out of the Juilliard School of Music, but his legacy lives on.
I'm suspicious of the existence of this Cory Rivard character, but I haven't tried to check it out. Anyway, I definitely don't think it belongs so prominently in the Juilliard School#History section. Maybe under the "Notable Graduates" section or something like that -- again, if he exists. --Rschmertz 05:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- That exact same edit by anon IP has been added before. I removed it, like yourself. I believe the edit to be simple non-sense and would happily 'eat my hat' if wrong. Rob (Talk) 14:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- That story is strictly non-sense. I have been affiliated with the Juilliard for more than 15 years and have had no knowledge of this incident. This contributor I feel is doing nothing more than vandalizing this page. We shoud be weary of this persons contributions. Junebug52 1:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Laundry List of Alumni
Anyone else feel like the alumni list is really just a laundry list? Shouldn't "notable" graduates have at least their own wikipedia page? Cephyr 22:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. Perhaps the list should only include those who have wikipedia articles. That would at least make it smaller.Classicalia 07:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
What's the difference between the Noted Alumni and Students lists? Miles Davis didn't even graduate, so he's not really an alumnus. Several quite famous alumni are only listed in the students section. This has me confused. Prometheusg 14:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC) Many schools allow non-graduates to be called alumni. So Miles Davis would be considered an alumnus, but would not be considered a graduate. Nymaestro 04:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
