Talk:Juan Luis Cardinal Cipriani Thorne

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[edit] Statement on human rights

This article has two totally contradictory paragraphs on his famous statement on human rights. The first reads

Cipriani Thorne is infamous in Peru for once saying "Los derechos humanos son una cojudez" ("human rights are bollocks"), by which he meant some secular and, in his view, radical understandings of human rights. Like the broader Catholic Church, Cipriani Thorne is acutely aware of some of the potential or actual incompatibilities between some contemporary understandings of human rights and the Christian worldview.

The second says

Cardinal Cipriani never said "Human Rights are bollocks". What he said was "La Coordinadora De Derechos Humanos es una cojudez", or "Human Rights Coordinator is a bollock". Coordinadora De Derechos Humanos (Human Rights Coordinator) is a NGO which is in fact an organization composed of people with leftist tendencies.

Either he said "los derechos humanos son una cojudez" or he didn't. It can't be both ways. I notice that Mario Vargas Llosa says he did say it in Caretas. Does anyone know if Llosa was correct? --Descendall 18:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)