User talk:Jrod2
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[edit] To all members at Wikipedia: A call to resolve the issues at the "Audio mastering" page
All editors at Wikipedia,
It appears that an editor, calling himself Mike Sorensen, in March 2007 placed on the Wikipedia "Audio mastering" page, a section called "Artmastering", complete with a supporting external link (See: [1]).
This article titled "Artmastering" which is related to audio mastering, was previously deleted for lack of support (See: [2]).
Originally, the article was posted as an external link by user "Voy7" in August 2006 (See:[3])
Around the same time, 2 more external links, one citing the same "Artmastering" studio, were apparently added by someone, presumably the owner himself, Art Sayecki. This was done anonymously with IP address 66.214.253.155 located in Burbank, California (Check IP) and (See: [4]and [5]).
Let's analyze this further:
- 66.214.253.155 (See IP) (Presumably Art Sayecki of "Artmastering") and
- 66.214.253.51 (See IP) (An unknown user who also supported "Artmastering" and attacked those who didn't agree (See: [6] and [7])
Location: Burbank, California.
According to most system administrators, there is a 95% chance or certainty, that these 2 IP addresses belong to the same user. Is this just a coincidence? It gets better. He plays with Wikipedia, erasing negative comments against Art Sayecki (See: [8]) and tries to erase his tracks from the system (See: [9]). Who could have an interest to do this?
The account Voy7 a/k/a "R.Watts" and the IP address with location in Burbank, were associated with accusations of sock puppetry (See:[10])
The "Artmastering" article and all external links were removed. Then, "Artmastering" was re-posted again by Mike Sorensen as indicated above in early March 2007 (See: [11]), only to be removed for the last time by a Sysop at Wikipedia (See: [12]).
All the aforesaid external links, direct to articles about "Artmastering", the owner Art Sayecki and his studio in Burbank, California.
The '"Artmastering" article, for the most part, is in the form of an interview with this mastering engineer, Art Sayecki, the creator of "Artmastering". It had a few brief quotations by well-known audio engineers agreeing with his views. (See: Mastering Your Music).
By his own admission, the interviewer of these "Artmastering" articles, who identifies himself as Scott G, "The G-Man", owns G-Man Marketing (See: [13]).
G-Man Marketing is in the business of consulting on advertising, marketing, positioning (Presumably for web/page rank), branding and sonic branding.
This "Artmastering" article, as a reference link at the mastering page, presented a problem for some users. As strongly indicated on the Wikipedia talk page and by the editors that deleted the "Artmastering" page (See: [14]). Some editors considered it a deliberate act of company promotion for the Art Sayecki mastering lab and studio.
I personally thought, that the "Artmastering" article did not meet the criteria for inclusion, since after researching the volume of interviews conducted by Scott G, "The G-Man", I found out that there were many more interviews with Art Sayecki (See: [15]), but no other mastering engineer was ever been interviewed by him (At least not found on the web).
The interviews, that I did find about "Artmastering", were apparently published by low to mid level of importance web sites of which Scott G, "The G-Man" is either a staff member or has an active affiliation (See: Click here).
In addition, Scott G, "The G-Man" is, by his own admission, Art Sayecki's client (See disclosure next to Sayecki's photo [16])
When I asked Mike Sorensen if he could provide more interviews, not by The G-Man, but by other known and reputable journalists, supporting Art Sayecki views on the subject of "Artmastering" (See [17]), he accused me of making a personal attack against him and Scott G, "The G-Man” (See: [18]).
He next accused me of being a "sock puppet account" of another user (See: [19]). This unknown user came in that day to apologize to Mike Sorensen for being rude to him in the past (See: [20]) and to respectfully request that article not be included on the mastering page again. (See: [21])
Believe me, I am not attacking anyone. I am only making inquiries to establish that the mastering engineer and his studio, Art Sayecki, has proven notability and not placed on the page for pure financial gain.
Although Mike Sorensen is sure that the work at this facility "is great" (See: [22]), my concern is that some people could get mislead by representations made on an informational page, but in effect being used for advertisement and self-promotion.
The long discussions and disruptive behavior of some users (See: [23]), one in particular that goes under the name "Biggy P", have made other users angry (See [24]).
Apparently, "Biggy P" provides support, by ridiculing (See: [25]) or harassing users who don't agree with Mike Sorensen (See: [26] and [27]). He has done this supporting roll in the past (See: [28]), and was presumed to be acting in connection with the account Voy7 a/k/a "R.Watts".
He also makes accusations of "sock puppetry" to anyone who questions Mike Sorensen views (See: [29]).
Certainly, you will agree that such thuggery, should not have a place on a Wikipedia talk page.
That said, it is not acceptable to link an article to a Wikipedia page that constitutes a conflict of interest, not by its contributor, Mike Sorensen, but by the author of the interview, "The G-Man", which at the very least, appears to be a biased promotion of a mastering engineer's studio facility.
My purpose in writing this is to bring this issue to a conclusion, so that Mike Sorensen's proposed inclusion gets adequate review, consideration, discussion and dismissal.
We need community and maybe Sysop intervention and WE NEED A FINAL RESOLUTION (This dispute started in the middle of 2006).
I sincerely hope that we can resolve this issues to the audio mastering page, so that we can all move on.
I greatly appreciate your time. Jrod2 20:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Your Question
Hello, Jrod2.
I have read the message you left me on my talk page, and though it is a little cluttered (no offense), I think I've got the gist of it. What you basically have is a content dispute, and these disputes are governed by strict policies (civility, assuming good faith, the Three Revert Rule, etc.). There is also a specific page with instructions on how to resolve disputes, located here. After reviewing most of the situation, I advise you go to step two of the resolving process, which is requesting mediation.
You might also want to discuss your problem with an administrator, as sysops are used to handling disputes and may be able to provide you with more assistance than I can. But if I were you, I would go ahead and request mediation, as no one appears to be willing to cooperate.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me. -- P.B. Pilhet 23:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Reply: You're welcome, Jrod. If there's anything else I can help you with, just let me know. -- P.B. Pilhet 21:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)