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[edit] Mourinho's Future
Please take down that so-called comment about Mourinho leaving Chelsea at the end of the season. Just yesterday, he proclaimed he would coach out of his entire contract up until 2010. Just because some sleazy reporter has a gut feeling(I watched Sky Sports News) doesn't mean Mourinho is leaving all of sudden.
[edit] how about a section on his tactics and football philosophy?
[edit] Something I would like to include but may be a mere personal opinion:
I strongly believe Mourinho is smarter than most, and thinks on a whole other level. While he may be ambitious and proud, I really believe his recent outbursts against Frisk, the UEFA and Rijkaard, are not merely caused by stress or a disconnection with the real world, but that he consciously draws the attention of the media towards him, in order to keep his players free from attention and stress. For comparison, in Manchester United, Real Madrid or Barcelona, the focus is on the players, hence all responsibility and stress. This is of course truthful, because it's they who have to perform. I am sure that with Mourinho, there would not be such interest in Rooney or Beckham. he makes sure his players stay out of the picture, all to the benefit of the team.
Something along these lines may be worthy of inclusion.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.229.242.54 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 8 May 2006 BST.
[edit] Needs a rewrite
I think this whole section needs expanded upon, updated and tidied up. A good start has been made, but this article is of quite a low quality considering that Mourinho is one of the world's foremost football managers.
--82.41.230.130 14:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Putting wrongs right
There is one glaring error that has not been addressed on this page; the players that joined Chelsea after Mourinho joined the club were not signed by him. Mourinho has made two transfers, Ricardo Carvalho and Paulo Ferreira, the rest ( Drogba, Cech, Kezman etc. ) were all signed by the previous manager, Claudio Ranieri, back in Jan 2004 for the summer. Please update, as constant praise ( even from seasoned commentators ) for Mourinho signings is extremely irritating. The man is arrogant enough, please do not give him credit where it is not due.
This is unfair criticism of the article, the underlying feeling of jealousy and hatred towards Chelsea is trying to make its way into an academic resource. Such stupidity should be left to the tabloids or drunkards in the public houses of the UK. Drogba was signed under Mourinho, and despite being a Manchester United fan, I agree totally with this article and will protest any changes.
- I thought Drogba was also signed by him, no? Mandel 16:44, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
Drogba and Kezman were both signed by Mourinho... Ranieri only signed Cech and Robben in Jan. 2004
A pedant writes - can you follow a gauntlet?
He's arrogant, but he still gets the job done. He still whips most managers' asses, even though I respect Benitez and Wenger too. Quit blaming him for shit that doesn't matter in football. Maybe your beloved 'insert name' masturbates and watches porn, but that doesn't give anyone the right to blame him for it. He is a manager first and foremost. And he's achieved great things with Porto, who ain't got Abramovich. And look at Real: same as Chelsea (money, players), but are shit.
[edit] Anders Frisk
I think it should be mentioned in the article that the allegation that Mourinho made on Anders Frisk after the FC Barcelona Champions League tie resulted in death threats made by Chelsea fans on Frisk's life, and this was a major cause in Frisk announcing his retirement.
Good point, from http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20050314/ai_n12943204
EUROPE'S MOST senior refereeing official yesterday accused Jose Mourinho of being an "enemy of football" for his role in inciting hysteria among Chelsea fans against Anders Frisk, the Swedish official who confirmed his retirement over the weekend in the wake of death threats.
Frisk was the referee for the first leg of Chelsea's last-16 Champions' League match against Barcelona, in the Nou Camp on 23 February, when Barca came from 1-0 down to win 2-1 after Frisk dismissed Didier Drogba.
Frisk has since endured what he has described as "the worst two weeks of my life", becoming the victim of abuse and threats via phone, fax and e-mail. While he has not yet publicised the nature of the threats, he believes they were the work of militant Chelsea fans and he has become sufficiently scared for his family's safety to bring a swift end to his refereeing career.
Mourinho, Chelsea's manager, has now been cited as partly responsible for the vendetta by Volker Roth, the chairman of Uefa's referees' committee.
[edit] Article style
This article is a personal opinion about Mourinho. For example, the following sentence "Any second rate manager with the kind of transfer budget the Bank of Russia enjoy every season could win the premiership year in year out." is not the kind of sentence you would wish to see in an encyclopedia. Besides that, I've known Mourinho before he went to Chelsea and his greatest achievements are the victories with FC Porto (a club without money, not like Chelsea) and not the current results with Chelsea. Anyway, even in Chelsea he has an impressive record, so I just think this article should be rewritten by an unbiased person.
- Just go and change the POV. Don't even need to bother reporting this before you change it. Such people are clearly just vandals, with no wish of making Wikipedia NPOV. Mandel 18:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
as a celtic fan ive known defeat by mourinho first hand (uefa cup final 2003) and the guy is by far one if not the best managers in the world
[edit] Neutrality
I've added the NPOV tag - this article his horrendously biassed, as discussed above. If/when I have more time, I'll come back and try to clean it up, unless someone else beats me to it. Waggers 15:08, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Unless you can provide a valid, reputable, unbiassed source for such claims, they would be classified as Original Research and would therefore be excluded.. As it stands, such comments would definitely violate WP:NPOV. Waggers 16:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] updating
- This article was extremely out of date and contained absolutely no information regarding Mourinho's progress at Chelsea throughout the 05/06 season and so I have updated it now (23rd April 2006) and will do so soon because such an influential and prominent figure in the sport of football deserves to have an up to date reference page. If anyone feels the article is slighly partisan, please ensure it is edited to preserve the article's crdibility and integrity. I have simply tried to cronicle the 05/06 season in a entertaining and literally sophisticated form of prose, as it is the only way to describe such a colourful persona. My update starts half way hrough the chelsea section with the line 'During the summer'User:Rory W-A 16:51 23RD APRIL 2006
[edit] Leiria
Leiria beste league finish with mourinho was fourth not fifth.
Whats wrong with him (Jose) he thinks no end of himself. As its always said "He who flies high falls hard."
NEED A HONOURS SECTION ON THAT !!!!
[edit] How could it be?
Hey, I'm just a reader who want to read some articles related to Jose Mourinho. Yes, the article is exist, off course, here in wikipedia. but, why do I got so many words of, I'm sorry, Moth*rfu*k*r? -feby 202.152.163.199 00:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately this article has been the subject of extensive vandalism lately. Please be bold and remove anything like this that you see. If you can identify which editor made the bad edit, please warn them on their talk page (see vandalism for more details). Thanks, Waggers 10:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
There is a slight mistake, where it mentions the victory over man u in april it should say 2006 otherwise it seems like it means 2005.
[edit] Manager Stats
How come it only features his managerial time at Chelsea. He did spend I think 2 years as manager of Porto. I would add this myself but I don't know the stats and I don't really know how to change it Craig Map 00:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- It's based on the info in the Soccerbase external link, which only features his stats for Chelski at present. I'll look for another source when I can. - Dudesleeper · Talk 02:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Soccerbase does have all of Porto's results (as far as I'm aware) from seasons 02/03 and 03/04, but to get Mourinho's record they'll have to be added manually... SteveO 16:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
You'd have to know the exact date for the first Mourinho game at Porto, as he started midway through the 2001-02 season. It'd be nice to know the exact dates for Benfica and Leiria so we could have a complete table of results.--Serte [ Talk · Contrib ] 17:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, you could just put all the stats in and when it comes to the start date, just put in 'Unconfirmed' I'm sure we'll find it somewhere. Craig Map 23:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
