User talk:Jong

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[edit] Welcome!

Hi Jong, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!

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Oh yes, don't forget to sign when you write on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: ~~~~. This will automatically add your name and the time after your comments. And finally, if you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! =)

- Mailer Diablo 11:21, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't see the need to reveal who I am. If you want information about me, check the profile of a user named Leonhart.

Oh, and before I forget, I would like to inform you that your use of the name "Dokdo" as the title of the article "Liancourt Rocks" is blatant NPOV in regard to the use of controversial names in neutral sections of Wikipedia. Although I understand that you are a Korean, and obviously feel insulted about how the Japanese government has claimed the Liancourt Rocks repeatedly, I must ask you to refrain from explicitly displaying such emotions on an online encyclopedia devoted to remaining factual and non-biased. Leonhart

I am going to say this to you for the very last last time: STOP TURNING WHAT I REVERTED INTO REDIRECTION PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S NOT THE POINT! YOUR ARTICLES ARE RIDICULOUSLY BIASED AND MAKE NO SENSE GRAMMATICALLY WHATSOEVER! IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STOP AND LISTEN TO COMMON SENSE, YOU'LL REALIZE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS OUT OF ORDER HERE! (deep breaths) Just leave the "Liancourt Rocks" article the way it is. It's perfectly balanced and does not lean towards your nationalist viewpoints. Unless you haven't noticed, not everybody in the world is a Korean. People are entitled to their own opinions for an issue as serious as this one, so it would be better if you just left them alone to decide independently instead of changing every artcicle concerning Korean-Japanese issues to fit you point of view. -- Leonhart

  • Most countries are governed not by common sense but by laws. Your common sense is not necessarily common to others. I am not nationalistic. I was putting the point that some 1800 French whaler's name 'Liancourt's rocks' is not a proper title for an island that has been mapped, governed and charted by old civilizations. It is in dispute due to recent Japanese claim. That is understandable. However, the name Liancourt rocks is not correct. Under international laws, Liancourt's rocks is Korean territory. Unless there is any true dispute such as international legal case, it should be noted that way. I am not fitting the name to my point of view. Could you check if you are not putting your own way of thinking to this matter (I know you think you are reasonable and commen sensical with your not very civilized way of speech)? -- Jong

[edit] Liancourt Rocks to Dokdo

If you want to move Liancourt Rocks to Dokdo try Wikipedia:Requested moves; bring allies and convincing arguments. This kind of move will preserve the edit history of the article (which is lost by pasting the text). Success on Wikipedia is more about process than content. This is the only way your move will happen. Davenbelle 13:14, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. --Jong 13:18, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
You're welcome; you should read over the procedure -- for example, the {{move|Dokdo}} goes on Talk:Liancourt Rocks. You also need to add an entry on Wikipedia:Requested moves; make your case for the move and be prepared to engage in dialogue with whomever chooses to comment or vote on the proposal. Be prepared for the possibility that this has all been gone over before. Best wishes. Davenbelle 13:43, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
If you want the move to be considered by a wider audience than those watching the article page, you do need to list the request on Wikipedia:Requested moves. Davenbelle 02:08, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dokdo2.png

I added the photo you uploaded to the article; it's a better photo than what was being used. You need to tag the image if you want it to remain used; for example, if you took the picture and are releasing it to the public domain, you'd add: {{PD-self}}. See: Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Davenbelle 02:08, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Daemado

Concerning about Tsushima, do you know about the result of their dispute in Korea? From international news, it seems that the Korean government rejected the declaration.

Tan 20:28, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dokdo

I need your advice. Concerning about the news links:

I find them useful. However, User:Jpatokal removed it as he quoted that

But several wikipedia pages such as Paul Schäfer so put up links on breaking news reports!

But I find them extremely relavant and I feel that they should be put up. What's your opinion?

Mr Tan 20:16, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Tsushima

Hi Jong, forget about the past contents. I'm glad that you're back after your long leave, and please do not leave for I really need you. Concerning about Daemado, can you please provide more information about it?

Also, can you please improve the quality of the map you created from this: Image:Tsushima islands.gif? The present map on the Tsushima Islands really sucks. Anyway, I'm expecting a reply.

Mr Tan 13:47, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Notice board

Hello Jong! I'm posting here to let you know that there is a new notice board for Korea-related topics. This board is a central place to discuss all matters pertaining to Wikipedia's coverage of Coreana. I hope you'll drop by and help it to take shape. -- Visviva 15:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Before I Vote on 'Move Tsushima Islands' Issue

  • I would appreciate a rational explaination (after you read my Comments in the subject dispute Talk:Tsushima Islands), of the arguement or arguments you consider vital and germane to the discusion and vote. Frankly, MOST all of you are being silly over nothing of particular importance, since both names can be redirected into the one used. I have left a comment concerning my contribution to the article, which contribution — seems to have triggered the current edit and revision wars. For that I apologize, but see the Comments on the vote. I am also taking the liberty of putting the vote section AFTER the Comments about same.
  • Still, I have just spent over four hours of valuable spare time, and would welcome your thoughts after you read and understand the distinction I put forth between a governments termonology as a governing body and a geographical reference like an archepelego, which it certainly is.
  • More to the point, I'd like to see your defense regarding your favorite POV of what I had to say viz a viz the mergest attitude of the senior editors and administrators that frequent the Wikipedia:VfD discussions. To my recollection, I don't recollect any of you hotheads in this dispute ever spending anytime thereon, possibly excepting Mel Etitis, but rarely even then.
  • In any event, I'm neutral here, and have asked that the article be kept EDIT FREE for the next three days by placing The Inuse template into it — I'd copyedited over two and half hours before I suspended that effort the other night because this shameful fued was going on — proper English grammer does depend, unfortunately, on whether one uses the plural or the singular. I saved that on my hard drive, but I don't need to wade through yet another 70 edits to finish the job. As it is, this matter will probably double the time it takes for such a simple job.
  • If you are local to Japan, some history of the canals or Sea-channel is certainly germane to the ongoing discussion, moreover, any cogent arguement you condsider being particularly telling needs to be clearly repeated in the current on going comments if you want them counted on in the vote.
  • I will make sure this message goes to each contributor to the article the past month, so you are not being singled out. Now is the time to take a deep breath, for rational concise summaries, not all the arguing that is so wearisome in 66 printed pages - half a novelette, I'd guess! It's certainly a lot to ask your fellow editors to wade through on a minor issue.
  • I will also personally be making sure that at least a dozen other Administrators I'm acquainted with take a look at the debate after the time below. I will in fact ask for twenty commitments, so be clear and respectful of our time!!!
  • Thankyou for your time, attention, and good professional behaviour. I'll check the Talk state again no sooner than Monday around Noon (UTC), And ask the uninvolved others to do the same. PLEASE BE CONCISE. [[User:Fabartus| FrankB || TalktoMe]] 23:13, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think he"ll probably won't come back. Mr Tan 06:46, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Usercategorization

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[edit] Welcome back

Hey, Jong! Welcome back. You might want to take a look at articles of your interests and particpitate in discussions actively. Cheers! Mr Tan 03:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Please don't do any test pages like the one you just did, though. That almost earned you a permanent block. You're good to go. - Lucky 6.9 17:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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