User talk:Jon Cates

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Jon,

Regarding your redirect 3 May 2006 (UTC) regarding the new Toughened glass page, however please be aware that this is new content. It is an expanded version of the existing text and does contain new information.

I did not notice your redirect and assumed that my article hadn't been submitted correctly - hence my resubmission.

The Architectural Glass is about glass in buildings. The Toughened Glass page clearly will have some overlapping content.

I will rv this page tomorrow to the text which I placed there.

Feel free to discuss on the Talk:Toughened glass page.

Regards,

Parasite 04:19, 3 May 2006 (UTC)



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[edit] être and éteindre

Hello,

I just wanted to mention that I've changed back the été to éteint in Pluperfect since the verb used was éteindre, to put out, not être, to be.

Inf. être éteindre
P.p. été éteint

Best regards,

- Tournesol 23:37, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Suicide attack

needs to be reverted -Xornok 19:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Joseph Haydn revert also... sorry about this... i just see you at all the pages right before i get there... not to mention, i have to do it manually, i figure id just give you a headsup until i can get my popup thing to work... it wont revert for me -Xornok 19:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] carlos perez rial

You were very quick - I was just going to do some redirects and I saw they were already there. I thought I'd had a blank spell or something. Jameswilson 02:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

...for the double redirect warnings... I'll watch it. --HolyRomanEmperor 17:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meh

Thanks for the double-redirect-fixing stuff, benefits those of us who are too lazy to check :) – Gurch 18:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AID

Hello,

As a recent editor of the article Shania Twain, you may have noticed the page isn't up to par with several other artist's pages. That's why I'm asking you to help it's nomination for an Article Improvement Drive, all you have to do is simply vote for it. If you would like to help, just vote here.

Thankyoubaby 20:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] trademark???

Are you seriously proposing that "U of M" is a trademark of the University of Michigan, so that their habitual stupid bigotry has legal status? The University of Minnesota has been called the U of M since before the birth of anyone now living, and I think the same is true of several others. The University of Minnesota is also called the "U of M" in some official contexts. Are you proposing that that's trademark infringement? Michael Hardy 20:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

UM and U of M is a trademark of the University of Michigan ... I point to [[1]], also Michigan was the first school formed which was University of M********* (1817). --Jon Cates 20:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you have any particular reason to think they were using the phrase "U of M" before the others? Michael Hardy 23:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

#1 The University of Michigan was formed more than 15 years before any of other U of M styled Universities in the United States
#2 The University has properly registered it as a trademark and wordmark as noted in my reference.
While other schools maybe styled as U of M or UM, these are stylations and not official trademarks such as it is in the University of Michigan case. The University of Michigan case goes beyond the concepts of colloquialism and is indeed legally protected.

--Jon Cates 23:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

What makes you think the others are not official trademarks? And, as I asked, do you have any particular reason to think the University of Michigan was using the phrase "U of M" before the others? You did not answer that. In the case of the University of Minnesota, it is not a mere colloquialism, but is used officially in many instances. Michael Hardy 20:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I have only stated, and continue to state, that UM and U of M are trademarks of the University of Michigan. That is a fact. This diatribe that you find yourself on is not appropriate. I have referenced my statements, and they are valid. Thank you for showing concern, yet as I have forwarded evidence of my statements, I respectfully ask that you end this diatribe. Jon Cates 01:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

No, that is not all you said. You wrote: "While other schools maybe styled as U of M or UM, these are stylations and not official trademarks". So what makes you think they're not?

Also, you said "The University of Michigan case goes beyond the concepts of colloquialism". That would be relevant in this context ONLY if the others do NOT "go beyond the concepts of colloquialism". But at the University of Minnesota, the name "U of M" is not merely colloquial; it is used in various official ways to refer to the University of Minnesota. It's also used on informational signs on interstate highways to direct people to the University of Minnesota's Minneapolis and St. Paul campuses. That's not just colloquialism.

You have not "referenced [your] statement" that the others are not trademarks, nor your statement that the Unviversity of Michigan was called the U of M before the others were. Michael Hardy 21:49, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ferdinand Schumacher

What is wrong with that article i made?

Post on my talk page MarkDonna

[edit] UM-Flint

Hi, Jon, since you have edited the UM-Flint site a lot, is it your opinion that we should add photographs to it, much like A2 has? Thanks for your consideration. I have many photos. Je vous parlerai plus tard, alors. Zea_m 17 August 2006

[edit] Black people article arbitration

Although I will not withdraw from the resolution to the Black People article arbitration, I do want to inform you I will not be participating further in the conversation or any article contributions for a while. I made my point clearly and I have found that the disruptions of EditingOprah have simply not been handled for what they are. He is the sole holdout in the article and he has sockpuppeted enough times to be banned. Finally, his and DeeCeeVoice's ignorance have really upset me because they remind me of how far we have to go in America. We have a lot of people who are caught up in being dictators, bosses, gangstas, niggas, thugs, and so forth. Because their ignorant perspective is financially supported by white corporations and the media, they evidently control too much of how discourse in black america is handled and until black people take charge of our own destiny, we cannot do anything but watch. By brother said one day about rap "Isn't it amazing how everyone can listen to a black man speak, he is that powerful". My response was "what a shame all that power is wasted on speaking about things of so little value" --Zaphnathpaaneah 06:51, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How much longer do we have to keep the Black People article locked?

The mediation has not gone anywhere since, and the article itself remains locked. EditingOprah is the lone holdout. Why will you not consider the matter resolved and unlock the article? --Zaphnathpaaneah 05:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not an admin, so I can not unprotect the page. As the other user as not responded, I will close the MedCab case. --Jon Cates 06:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)