Talk:Jonny Quest
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The 1998 version of Johnny Quest as not the second series, but indeed the third. On the 80ies, Johnny Quest had its second series. I think (if my memory doesn't fail) done by the same people that did cartoons like the Transformers, The Defenders of the Earth and Centurions. The cartoon looked very eighties, and used 80ies colour technics where you can clearly see the difference from the previous (60s/70s) version.
Yes! And there was a man made-of-stone that become a regular... Not so good series, but it existed.
Osias, unregistred. --200.97.51.224 01:06, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Jessie Bannon correction
Jessie Bannon did not appear at all in the 1986 revival program. There was a similar character who appeared in one episode of the program. Like Jessie Bannon she was a red-haired girl named Jessie who was about the same age as Jonny and Hadji. She had a different last name and her father was a scientist the Quests were helping rather than Race Bannon. The first appearance of the Jessie Bannon character was in Jonny's Golden Quest.
- I went and looked it up (I forgot she had a last name). But Jessie Bradshaw and Jessie Bannon are essentially the same character (one is just a retcon of the other), and Jessie B. appeared more than once in Jonny Quest '86, so I edited the article accordingly. Thanks for the heads-up. --FuriousFreddy 23:12, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
"most of the villains being of Eastern European or Chinese origin, and meant to depict Communists."
I don't think that this assertion is true. I think that (as in most of the post-Cold War James Bond films) most of the villains were presented as independently-operating megalomaniacs.
Anybody care to provide any support for this? (28 Sept 2005)
- Are they ment to depict communists per-say or just represent more vagly the communist threat, in like these are the kind of people who are communist and they are EVIL?--Kat fletchers smug face 17:38, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Inspirations: Clutch Cargo?
5 years before Jonny Quest, Doug Wildey and Alex Toth worked on a animated (well, sort of) adventure series about a white-haired pilot and his little companion and dog called Clutch Cargo. Isn't it possible Clutch Cargo was one of the inspirations for Jonny Quest? Does anyone know if there's any basis to this, or is it just my imagination? Since I've found nothing that specifically mentions Clutch Cargo as an influence on Jonny Quest, I'll have to refrain from putting it in the article-- No original thought/research. Rizzleboffin 23:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
A major difference that I see in comparing Clutch Cargo to Jonny Quest is the stories revolve around Clutch Cargo who is an adult while the young boy named Spinner is only a sidekick. Since Doug Wildey worked on both series, it is possible there may be a connection. However, unless direct evidence is found showing he used Clutch Cargo as a basis for Jonny Quest, any claim would be wild speculation. Since Wildey passed away in 1994, proving a connection seems very unlikely to happen.
Alan Smithee 02:19, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, Alan. The shift in focus from the adult to the kid isn't all that great, I don't think, since the basic premise is very similar. But unless it's been noted elsewhere by people in the know, it's just wild speculation on my part-- I realize that. Seems like more than coincidence to me though, since Wildey did work at Cambria Studios. No need to put it into the article though, unless there's more justification. Rizzleboffin 05:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I agree with you that both have a similar theme. Also, it's not unusual for an artist's new creations to be influenced by his past work. In interviews with Doug Wildey, he only credited Jack Armstrong, Terry and the Pirates and his work on the Stretch Bannon and The Saint comic strips as the main inspirations for the premise and characters in Jonny Quest. He never attributed his work on Clutch Cargo as a source. Unfortunately, it appears there are enough differences between the two series that a direct inspiration can't be claimed by anyone except Wildey himself. Alan Smithee 06:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fair Use Galleries
Who says they are not allowed and why?FrankWilliams 18:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- From Wikipedia:Fair use#Policy: The amount of copyrighted work used should be as little as possible. Low-resolution images should be used instead of high-resolution images (especially images that are so high-resolution that they could be used for piracy). Do not use multiple images or media clips if one will serve the purpose adequately. (emphasis mine). --FuriousFreddy 17:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, the first part complies as the images are low res. The second part is the word "adequately" which is left to interpetation. I don't think that one clip fits the purpose adequately and a montage of 4 clips does adequately depict what closing credits; as the paragraph talks to each of the 4 clips. Therefore the gallery IS within the rules.
Furthermore, rather than getting into a deletion and addition war you whould wait until the discussions have completed until you do a revision. Since I began this dialogue I am adding the gallery until a adequate resolution is in place. FrankWilliams 19:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- You're horribly reaching. There is no edit war here, because you're still violating the policy: the paragraph doesn't "talk to" four pictures; it mentions one closing-credit sequence from this program. Only one still image is need to illustrate a closing credit sequence. You go and find another film or TV article with multiple images to illustrate literally adjacent shots (if you find one, it too is a bad article and needs to be fixed).
- In addition, remember that Wikipedia is supposed to read as a professional encyclopedia, and not as an informal fan website. Encyclopedias do not interrupt the flow of prose to presnt boxes of screenshots from a TV show, such a presentationh is highly unprofessional. I reverted this (and will continue to revert it) because it goes against the guidelines. That policy isn't there for its health: the number of unfree images used in Wikipedia articles si to be kept to the barest minimum possible. Otherwise, you viloate the very rationale for fair use. --FuriousFreddy 16:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your opinion, but encyclopedias do indeed have multiple screenshots when depicting a subject at hand. Your interpetation that something is going against any guidelines is your opinion and you should not try to force your viewpoint. I also thank you for your opinion on what is professional. FrankWilliams 19:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- ...not multiple screenshots fro mthe same four adjacent shots of a film! That is, unless some sort of movement is trying to be conveyed, which it isn't; you only want those there for illustrative purposes. I'm not placing my opinion into any of this; you're actually projecting your protection of your opinion onto me. I've edited (sadly) hundreds of articles on TV shows and films, and the only other time I've seen an image gallery like this (which, make no mistake, is against fair use policy), is on a handful of cartoon articles. One image suffices.
- Even if four images of the same exact scene were acceptable...why are you using 8-bit gifs instead of 24-bit jpegs? --FuriousFreddy 00:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I was trying to keep the pics as low res as possible per policy. If you think 24-bit jpegs are better I don't see an issue with this.FrankWilliams 01:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Resolution and color channel bit depth are not synonymous. --FuriousFreddy 01:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi. Wikipedia is intended to be as freely-reusable as possible. The best test for whether one is following Wikipedia:Fair use criteria is that everyone is in agreement that the criteria are being followed. If even one person suggests that there is an overuse of unfree content in the article, that is enough reason to remove the material in question. Trying to debate the meaning of the word "adequate" is pointless; the spirit of the criteria is to keep our content as maixmally reusable as possible. Please do not approach this conversation as an argument that can be won or lost, but instead focus on ensuring consensus for even the slightest compromise on our mission of giving away a free encyclopedia. Other encyclopedias are often a terrible comparison; they are not aiming for reusability and they have specific licensing agreements with copyright holders. If you feel strongly that more screenshots would be a benefit to our readers, there is nothing wrong with listing the copyright-holders website in an external links question. Jkelly 00:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Besides the fair use reasoning, the image gallery distorts the infobox and breaks the page at lower (1024 x 768 and lower) resolutions. --FuriousFreddy 01:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Tom Quest" novels
The 50's saw a series of archeology-oriented boys'-adventure books by Fran Striker (of The Lone Ranger), featuring a young hero named "Tom Quest". I am expert enough neither in Tom Quest nor in Jonny Quest to judge whether there is a connection, but there are some similarities, enough to warrant investigation. Even if, upon investigation, there should prove to be no connection, it would be worth saying so.
John W. Kennedy 18:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Kids in the Hall Reference"
There is an episode of Kids in the Hall where Scott tells his parents he wants to become an Indian woman. After discussion, an Indian man appears at the door and Scott greets him as Hadji, and subsequently, Hadji greets him as Johnny. Here is a transcript of the episode, I don't know which episode this appears in or what season. http://www.kithfan.org/work/transcripts/one/indian.html
[edit] Johnny? Jonny?
I'm not too familiar with this show, but are the apparent spellings differences supposed to be there? Did it just get officially changed at some point? I apologize if it's actually explained in the article somewhere, but I could only take the time to skim it. --Foot Dragoon 02:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- You're right, it appears 68.12.73.3 decided to go through the article and change the spellings to an incorrect version, even though there's a large picture with the correct spelling at the start of the article. It's been corrected now though. Psychonaut3000 01:22, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bandit a Pug?
Do we know from some source in the show that Bandit is a pug? He doesn't look much like a pug to me. He looks a lot like a french bulldog. --24.84.120.89 19:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
