Talk:Jonny McGovern

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I cleaned the page up a bit and added a tiny mention of the video's exposure on the internet - "as well as notoriety on the internet." Eh? Eh?? Just felt like reporting that, because damn it's lonely to do this and stay quiet about it. : P

Well, since I wrote this article, I obviously think that the article is accurate and that there is no non-neutral content. Whoever put the dispute should probably say something about WHAT they dispute..? Pacian 23:47, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

My boeuf was with the sentence "He is not very well known outside of the gay community." Unless you can source this, we should take it out, because it's non-obvious. Other than that, it's fine. Sorry for not noting this earlier. 140.247.60.149 00:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Did you visit his web page? I don't know how to cite a source for this other than to say that it's just common knowledge and extremely obvious. Unless you think that a music video featuring a man bumping and grinding with other men (wearing only jock straps) while singing "suck, suck, suck!" has been in heavy rotation in heterosexual circles...? He has not marketed himself to anywhere outside of the gay community, and although he MAY appeal to non-gay people his primary influence is on gay culture. Pacian 15:32, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I imagine that Soccer Practice in particular has a lot of traction as an Internet phenomenon, which is how I heard about it. Maybe "not well known outside the gay community except as an internet phenom" would more adequately describe it. Anecdotally, at least, most of the people I know who've seen the video are het. jdb ❋ (talk) 18:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Just to add a (belated) dos pesetas, both "Lookin' Cute, Feelin' Cute" and "Soccer Practice" are common in gay clubs. Which, as a straight man, I do go to, because "het" bars are so tragically boring. My wife, also straight (at least I think so), goes to the clubs with me, and quite a few of my (also straight) friends. Avriette 20:23, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

• I understand what you're saying, but I think you're confusing the issue. Take Rupaul, for example. Though many heterosexual people may know who she is and what she does, it is primarily homosexuals who are attending her concerts and buying her albums etc...following that same train of thought, it is primarily gay people who are purchasing "Gay Pimp" merchandise and attending McGovern's performances (which are almost exclusively at gay venues or at pride festivals.) Does this make the meaning of the statement more clear? Pacian 11:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I also heard of him as an internet phenomena - I saw him at MuchoSucko.com. None of my gay friends knew of him. The whole term "Gay community" is somewhat ridiculous. It's like saying TLC is famous in the womens community. I knew plenty of women who doesn't give squat about TLC. The gay community is a myth invented by homosexual mediawhores and media itself. Gay is diversity. The thing that is completely common with all homosexuals is their homosexuality, not their preference in music. McGovern is a performer acknowledged by a gay segment, not the gay community. So the statement is void. I'm gonna remove the sentence. --MadiZone 13:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I find your comments to be extremely ignorant. The term "commuity" means "a group of people having common interests." The gay community is a term that is used to refer to those gay individuals who actively pursue regular interactions with other groups of gay individuals, often in inherantly gay settings, for activities that commonly appeal primarily (or signifigantly) to gay people. I'm not a "homosexual mediawhore," and I embrace the term and all of its facets. Perhaps you should keep your tongue to your teeth on matters that you CLEARLY don't comprehend. Pacian 11:29, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think we disagree much after all. As I interpret your statement there's a wide array of gay communities, but not one single homogeneous gay community. That is why the statement is void. I'm quite sick of having people apply attitude, taste and cultural bagage upon me as soon as I tell them I'm gay, so let's break the stereotypes and promote an image where homos don't need to look cute, feel cute and worship madonna and the fab five. Now, if you want to keep the sentence, please change the sentence to "The stereotypical gay community" and I won't quirk anymore about it :o) But if not, I feel that "Though he is known by a variety of people, his fanbase is primarily gay." says what needs to be said. --MadiZone 12:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What is with the tag on the page saying the article needs cleaning up? It looks fine to me and I'm removing it. Pacian 11:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Johnny McGovern → Jonny McGovern –since that's the actual spelling instead of one we made up.

[edit] Voting

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• Support Simply put, this is his real name! (Requires admin) --Lox (t,c) 22:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

• The CDDB lists "Johnny McGovern". The iTunes Music Store lists it as Jonny. gaypimp.com lists it as Jonny. Can you come up with something clearer? I've got the CD, and could probably find it. Is it possible he changed his name somewhere along the line? Also, you can just use the "move" tab, above, to move articles. I'd prefer you got a consensus first. :) Avriette 22:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

No, you can't just use the move tab, the article that's already at "Johnny McGovern" needs to be deleted, and only administrators can do that. The CDDB is just wrong: look at the links already provided in the article; Jonny McGovern's website spells his name "Jonny McGovern"; I think that's fairly definitive. Who knows, maybe CDDB got their misinformation from us. - Outerlimits 23:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Jonathunder 21:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Podcast -> new page?

I'm concerned that the podcast section is now growing quickly and should probably be moved to its own page - say Gay Pimpin' with Jonny McGovern. Thoughts? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)