Talk:Jonathan Sacks
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Rabbi Sacks is a terrific speaker, and an intellectual gem!
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.139.114.199 (talk • contribs) .
The suggestion that he personally blocked non-Orthodox participation in JABE is not evidenced by any of the coverage of this issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.50.2.9 (talk • contribs) .
- Stanley Kalms of Dixons seems to lay it fairly squarely at his door:
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- "The Chief Rabbi stood on a platform of inclusivism," trustee and Dixons founder Lord Kalms told the Jewish Chronicle. "Once again, after many other examples, he has tossed it into the long grass." [1].
- It was Rabbi Sacks who instigated JABE, he's their president, and if he wanted to change this, he had the weight to make it happen.
- Wikipedia shouldn't find itself perpetrating a whitewash of his position and his attitude, when given half a chance his preferred approach seems to be to carry on as if trying to give the impression that no other systematic set of views and no other part of the Jewish community even exist. -- Jheald 16:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC).
I read the quote from Stanley Kalms, but to be fair this does not constitute evidence that the Chief Rabbi was the problem here. He was not reported anywhere as having been directly involved in the discussions, and it appears to have been his Beth Din who actually blocked the more collaborative approach. The Chief Rabbi has personally shared platforms with Reform Rabbis in recent years, for example at the Yom HaShoah service and the annual Ajex memorial service in Whitehall - so your comment about his atttude is unfair.
Articles on Wiki should be impartial, accurate and evidenced. There is no evidence whatsoever to show that the Chief Rabbi blocked this decision or even that he was personally approached as President of the organisation to resolve the matter.
Your suggestion that he tries to pretend that no other forms of judaism exist is highly subjective, and also disproven by the reports in this week's Jewish media that he convened talks with the leaders of all the main synagogue groups on Church Divestment from Israel. Rabbi Bayfield the Head of the Reform Movement regularly talks of his warm relationship with the Chief Rabbi. Furthermore, the Chief Rabbi has only ever claimed to articulate tradional Judaic principles - not to represent the Jewish comunity.
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It has also been noted that it is not clear where he went to Yeshivah or indeed who his rabbis are, that would link him in to a chain of Torah tradition. These are considered paramount for orthodox Jews in general, and even more so for Jewish leaders. Secular degrees in philosophy are not seen as qualifications for rabbis, only a valid background in a recognised place of traditional Jewish learning with ordination for a highly respected rabbi in a section(s) of Jewish law. However, if the above is attained, and then a secular qualification is also attained some would see this as a positive benifit as long as there is a full grounding in classic Torah learning. This has been a source of contention from the orthodox viewpoint. It should be noted that Jew's college is not generally considered a classic yeshiva, but more of a modern blend of a college and a yeshivah-stlye approach to study. A budding student who wants a classic yeshiva education applies to a regular Yeshivah. Applications to Jews College is with secular A-levels and not with the usual Torah-based primary & secondry education that a yeshivah expects.
This paragraph cannot go back until it has source. "Who has noted?" You need an reliable external source. --Jayrav 22:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
See the top template on defamation of living persons or poorly sourced material- if you revert it again then this page may be placed on a watch list and you may be banned. --Jayrav 21:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
