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Contents 1 "Name day" 2 Sydney Pardon 3 Summer of four captains 4 ? pic for Midsomer Norton railway station 5 Radstock 6 B&NSR 7 William Clarke 8 Ganteaume 9 Mendip Hills 10 Calcutta Cricket Club 11 Q 437 12 Award of a Barnstar 13 Mendip Hills FAC 14 reply 15 About Monty Panesar 16 It is true 17 Murder 18 Bill O 19 Bramall Lane 20 *Sigh* 21 Takes my breath away

[edit] "Name day"

Thank you, but it does not stand for Jan 1, 2007. Since Tintin, Tintin1 etc are all already taken at wikipedia and webmails, I picked a number with cricketing significance at random that is unique everywhere. (952 is more important but wasn't picked for obvious reasons :P ) Tintin (talk) 03:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sydney Pardon

Many thanks for supplying his date of birth, which I couldn't find anywhere. I don't suppose that you happen to know his place of birth and/or place of death? JH 19:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I should have thought of looking there! (As an aside, it's a shame how Births and Deaths has been emasculated in recent editions. I also greatly miss the list of Test cricketers, showing who they played against, in which years, and how many Tests.) JH 19:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I've had the same thought, that splitting it into two volumes would be a good idea. I bet that Pardon would have done so by now. JH 21:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Summer of four captains

Just to make sure that you noticed this. [1] is the problem statement. It does not seem to appear in the online Wisden, but do you remember if it was used in Cricketer or WCM ? Tintin (talk) 10:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Tintin and thanks in advance Johnlp. Can I also draw your attention to this diff ([2]). Ta. --Dweller 11:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I put a note on the talkpage thread last night. Not sure it was particularly helpful! Johnlp 11:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I found that ref too... and it's not a brilliant one anyway, because it's not really used in the right way. How annoying... I can't believe that I was creative enough to make it up myself, yet I can't find any decent refs for it. --Dweller 11:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit]  ? pic for Midsomer Norton railway station

Hi, I saw your recent edit to Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway & wondered if you could help. Do you know if the picture at geograph is right for the wikipedia article on Midsomer Norton railway station if so it is licenced under creative commons & we could use it?— Rod ^talk 22:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks I've added the pic - perhaps you would be kind enough to improve the caption or add more info (I've also linked to the station article from the Radstock article which includes Midsomer Norton.— Rod ^talk 22:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Radstock

Following your suggestion I've added a comment on the Talk page for Norton Radstock about possibly separating Midsomer Norton & Radstock into 2 different articles - would you like to add any comment?— Rod ^talk 09:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] B&NSR

I'm no railway expert but the Bristol and North Somerset Railway article seems fine - certainly in terms of local geography & links. Thanks — Rod ^talk 22:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] William Clarke

Hi, Would the William Clarke mentioned on the Bristol and North Somerset Railway be William Tierney Clark?— Rod ^talk 22:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ganteaume

Re [3], apparently AG was the third wicket keeper. Kanhai kept wickets in the first three Tests (it seems Alexander was available but not picked) and Alexander for the last two. Tintin 00:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip Hills

Thanks for correcting my error on Mendip Hills, I've now put the article up for peer review & would welcome any comments on Wikipedia:Peer review/Mendip Hills.— Rod ^talk 10:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calcutta Cricket Club

CCC is considered as the second oldest current cricket club after MCC (though it is, as mentioned in the article, probably older). The source mentioned in the article says that 1792 came to be regarded as the most authentic because the Wisden Cricketers Almanack, acknowledged to be the authority on all cricketing matters, accepted the version on the basis of the score-card of a match played between Calcutta, on the one hand, and Dum Dum and Barrackpore, on the other, as reported by the Madras Courier.. I was under the same impression that the yearly history section in the Almanacks says so but on checking specifically for this today found that it has no entry for CCC or 1792.

The Rowland Bowen article from 1967 does say so but some of things mentioned in it have since been revised. Don't we have anything newer in Wisden to support the 1792 claim ? Tintin 07:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

(Please reply here since this may become a three way discussion)

Will try to look this evening, but have a bad day today and it may be late. BTW, not three-way, did you spot I found two more murdereds in a book of obits? Johnlp 08:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Re murdered ckters, yes, I have that page in the watchlist. Never thought those lists would become so long ! Tintin 08:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure that Calcutta is the second oldest current club or MCC the oldest. ISTR that some town club in England celebrated its 250th anniversary a decade or two ago. I suspect it might be arguable whether it was really one and the same organisation throughout all that time, though. Regarding Wisden, I think that the main Dates in Cricket History has appeared several more times since 1967, but I don't think that it's been revised at all, and I don't think that the Dates in Indian Cricket History has appeared since. Bowen died in 1978, and I don't think that anybody else has taken it on. Looking at what the Calcutta article currently says about its origins, it all appears to be correct. JH (talk page) 09:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I can see nothing in subsequent Wisdens that changes the 1792 date, and it is also mentioned in the Barclays World of Cricket book (though I suspect that used Wisden as its primary source). Mitcham Cricket Club just a couple of miles from me here in south London claims to have been founded in 1685 and to have been watched by Lord Nelson (presumably when he had the use of both eyes, so before 1794!). Someone has believed that enough to create a Wikipedia article on it. Johnlp 22:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Added these two points and mentioned Mitcham specifically. Tintin 04:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Btw, this is what the entry in Bengal Gazette in 1780 reads :

News extraordinary from the Cricket Club : The gentlemen of the Calcutta Cricket Club are themselves into wind and preparing to take the field for a very active campaign - but as Prior observes : "The strength ofevery other member depends upon the belly timber. They are laying in a capital stock of that necessary ammunition, fed beef and claret, allowing no other intervals but the short time required for its concoction - many of the club are so indefatigable as to work double tides, at this agreeable, though fatiguing operation. Calcutta Cricket Club enjoys today the use of a splendid site as good as can be found anywhere. One reference is enough. At a meeting it was decided to admit officers of Her Majesty's regiments quartered in Fort William, Dum Dum, Alipore, Barrackpore on payment of half fess because their pay did not permit them to incur the expense. As the Cricket Club had the free use of regimental bands, they have to show some appreciation so the underpaid bandsmen gave their services to help their officers enjoy themselves.

This is dated 16 December, 1780. Tintin 09:35, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Q 437

Since this is from Herecombe v Therecombe, please wait till the others have a go at this one. Tintin 23:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL. Despite the topic it is a little funny. I added the cat to Collie Smith too. Tintin 02:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award of a Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		The Barnstar of Diligence is hereby awarded in recognition of extraordinary scrutiny, precision, and community service. Awarded by Addhoc

[edit] Mendip Hills FAC

Thanks for your edits of Mendip Hills. I have now put it up as a Featured Article Candidate & comments, support or opposition is being recorded at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mendip Hills.— Rod ^talk 10:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] reply

thank you for letting me know, it wasn't intended to happen so was probably a mess up by the browser or my crappy computer; anyways thanks.--Thugchildz 19:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About Monty Panesar

If you look at the batting and bowling section, you'll see. --71.163.66.77 22:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It is true

Hello John. Yes, I've been persuaded and I've returned. I'll only be making short visits for the next couple of weeks because I've a lot on but I intend to get stuck into the 19th century material and take that forward. Thanks for dealing with those NZ article prods while I was away. All the best. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 19:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Murder

Agree, we should create two lists out of it. I'll create the tables first. Tintin 13:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

List of cricketers who were murdered is up. Tintin 08:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Please do the needful for DYK. I am on to the other list now. Tintin 09:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

There is some confusion about the presence of David Hookes. User:Daniel Case changed "Other deaths" to "Possibly murdered cricketers". It sounds better but Hookes doesn't belong there. Strictly speaking, Hookes should not be given equal prominence as the rest when the article is about "murdered" cricketers. Another of his suggestions is to change the article title to "List of cricketers who were homicide victims". What do you think ? Tintin 04:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Re Hylton, may be in a notes section. In DYK, shouldn't it say that Hylton is the only Test cricketer to be hanged ? Now it sounds as if he is the only fc ckter but we can't be certain about it. Tintin 15:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill O

Hey! You started without us! (Great job btw...) --Dweller 20:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh heck, do yourself justice. You've done brilliantly. If someone did decide to take it on, it's in fine shape for heading to FA. --Dweller 08:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bramall Lane

Thanks for the heads up! It was just my terrible spelling. I've put the extra information in the existing Bramall Lane article so the one I wrote, now called 'Bramall Lane Cricket Ground' can be deleted if you like. Thanks again. Nick mallory 08:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Nick Mallory

The redirect is a good idea, but I don't know how to do it. I'll look it up and try to do it, but I'd be happy for you to get rid of my 'Bramall lane cricket ground' article and redirect people to the right one through my wrong spelling. I wonder why I thought it was spelt like that? I must talk really posh or something. I wrote a piece on the "Roses Match" as well because it seemed to be a gaping hole in the cricket coverage and now I wonder if there's another article on that somewhere on wikipedia. How do these redirects work? I'd like people who look for 'Roses match' or 'Roses matches' to find my piece, how do I do that? Thanks for being patient with me! Nick mallory 09:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Nick Mallory

[edit] *Sigh*

[4] and http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/288672.html Tintin 06:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Takes my breath away

Nick Mallory, I mean. He's quicker than Brett Lee! I see you wrote to him just before I did.

Changing the subject, thanks for your message to me. And many more thanks for all your help recently while I've been away from the site. Much appreciated. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 21:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)