Talk:Johnathan Wendel
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Dont mess with it hommie
- Well, since you put up such a well-formed and documented argument, how can we think of it? Vo0 is himself notable, since he has his own entry, but their rivalry clearly is not. Flakeloaf 01:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- Agree, furthermore, there is no real rivalry anymore, since this only existed in the '05 Painkiller season. --Djith 19:13, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] No Unreal
Hey where's the infomation about his Unreal play and the episode he was featured in MTV True Life.
[edit] Tight
That works for me daWg. Keep it real.
[edit] Redirects
A special name: Johnathan Wendel
- _ _ There are 3 other reasonable spellings for his surname: Wendell, Wendle, and Wendal, with the 2-L one Google'g 4.5 times as high as his.
- _ _ There are 3 other reasonable spellings for his given name: drop the first H; do that and also chg the last A to O; or keep the H but drop the O. The first Googles 70 times as high as his, and the second twice as high.
- _ _ There's a single syllable version of his given name, with two spellings, John or Jon. John G's 400 times as high, and even Jon G's over 100 times as high.
- _ _ That's 3x(4+2)= 24 reasonable names for him, and (on plausible assumptions about Google usually suggesting how likely people are to try the corresponding combinations of spellings), only 7 are less likely than his real name!
- _ _ It speaks well for the colleagues who preceded me at adding rdrs that they hit the 2nd and 5th ranked; however they also rdr'd from the second lowest ranked one.
- _ _ My own record was slightly better: my three rdr does turn out to be the 3rd-, 10th, and 13th-ranked possibilities. But i applied some bad reasoning and/or transcribed badly, on the one i created just before deciding more care, and then more formal analysis, were called for.
- _ _ The RfD standards don't counsel limiting the number of rdrs, but even in an unusual case of a name as booby-trapped as this one is with opportunities to misspell (someone apparently tried the "low ranking" Jonathon Wendal and made it a rdr as a result), there's a limit to my interest in creating them. In alpha order, here are the ones i found or am creating; the ones i wouldn't now create if they weren't done already are italicized:
- Wendal
- John
- Johnathon
- Jon
- Jonathan
- Jonathon
- Wendel
- John
- Jon
- Jonathan
- Jonathon
- Wendell
- John
- Johnathan
- Jon
- Jonathan
- Jonathon
- Wendle
- John
- Jonathan
- Wendal
--Jerzy•t 08:34, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Title
This article should really carry the title Fatal1ty, as stated in the lede - he is better known under that name. As per WP:NAME. Themindset 23:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree; is anyone opposed to moving this article to Fatal1ty? Per WP:NAME, as Themindset says, the article should be located at the most common name for the person, with redirects as appropriate. This article's opening sentence states that he's better known by the name Fatal1ty. Unless there's a good reason why not, I'd like to move it. TomTheHand 21:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Worth mentioning?
I read somewhere that DirecTV hired Johnathan to commentate all the games for their new gaming league called "Championship Gaming Invitational", which is going to run on one of their channels. Is this worth mentioning? J0lt C0la 02:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- There is a difference between the Championship Gaming Invitational and the Championship Gaming Series. The latter, in which he will be commentating, hasn't been fully announced yet and is far from conventional and operational. I suggest we mention this once the Series have started and shown them self notably. -- DJiTH 02:49, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I honestly didn't know and just put it down the way the website put it. Thanks for the clarification! I'm glad my satellite probider is getting its own league, I hope it comes out soon. J0lt C0la 12:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think it could be great, I just hoped that they would stick to conventional games and rulesets, rather than what they have in mind now. -- DJiTH 13:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I honestly didn't know and just put it down the way the website put it. Thanks for the clarification! I'm glad my satellite probider is getting its own league, I hope it comes out soon. J0lt C0la 12:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Teams
Some have said (see edit summary) that his wins with teams don't really qualify as wins because they were online. Thoughts? Is it true? are they all online? Personally, my vote is to still call them wins if you're even going to mention them. Saying he competed, implies that he didn't win, and while there might have been tournaments that he didnt' win, I'm not aware of any, and lacking verifiablility, we shouldn't mislead the users into something along those lines. Online wins are still wins. Anyone else have any thoughts? McKay 03:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, there are two things to consider here. The first thing is that only professional offline tournaments (i.e. those with substantial prize money and/or renowned professionals participating) are notable enough to be mentioned or listed on WP. The second thing is that the cited source is the subject's own website and happens to be full of groundless claims, such as the 12 world championship titles Wendel claims to hold. The IONGamers tournament did have a $5.000,- prize purse, but took place online and was limited to north-American participants only. So I would say, not-notable. Also, consider the encyclopedic value. Is there any added value in adding this mention? Maybe for Wendel himself to get his reputation another boost, but other than that, not really. -- Laurens Hoek 16:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
