Talk:John Wilmot, 2nd Earl of Rochester
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Please note that most of the text of the article has been taken from here, with the permission of the website owner and copyright holder (=mym). Since I initiated the contact and asked for permission to use, I can vouch for this being the right person.--Bishonen 01:43, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Added Film Trailer
Not sure about procedure here but hope this is ok. Might be cool to add the size of the Quicktime movie or alternative formats?
[edit] tagged for copyediting
this article is full of grammatical errors, most notably a number of sudden tense changes. it's also repetitive and confusing as is, as the earl's history is recounted at first in brief and then again in detail.
[edit] Where's the Rake?
One of the most interesting aspects of Wilmot's life is his reputation for some of the most epic fornications that the literary world has ever seen. Unfortunately, it is not reflected in this article. Where are his men? Where are his poems? I find this to be a decidedly incomplete and uninteresting version of the 2nd Earl of Rochester's biography, not to mention quite a lackluster list of his works.
[edit] ADDITION: Copyright Problems
Whilst the article may have been copied from "Mym's Website", the text originally comes from the 'Everyman's Poetry' edition of ROchester's poems. If I get time I'll re-write it, but for now I thought it should be pointed out....
- Therefore, the incorrect attribution has been removed from the article proper pending verification. 81.107.46.167 20:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, the wikipedia article is almost cut-and-paste copy from the "Biography at druidic.org". Shameful.
[edit] Corrected birth date
26-5-06: Corrected birth date from the 10th of April to the 1st; His Earlship was born on April Fool's Day. :)
[edit] Epigram for the King
The epigram on the King that is now generally accepted to be accurate goes:
We have a pretty witty king...
Peter Porter, a big fan, quotes it as such.
[edit] Political activity: The facts?
In the film The Libertine, Rochester is portrayed as shunning political involvement, until, during his final illness, he makes a dramatic speech in Parliament, essentially saving the English monarchy.
Can anybody please add at least some sketch of the facts to the article? Thanks. -- 201.78.193.119 14:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Link added: 26-08-06
Added a link in the 'External Links' section to the Thesis Website of a student who has studied Rochester's poetry. I think it's worth a look, even if it's just for the bibliography; some good books there for anyone who needs more detail on the Earl. Also added the name of Jeremy Lamb's book which is a must-read for any Wilmot fan.
In response to 'political activity'.. from what I've read it seems that while the Earl had definite interests in politics, he tended to keep clear of it unless for poetic purposes. In my readings it seems it wasn't until his later years that he took a more serious interest in them. I believe there are various references to politics in his letters to Savile (Rochester-Savile Letters, 1671-1680: The Ohio State University Press, 1941) but I have yet to obtain a copy of this book personally. Several copies are available on the net, but at a high price. While a very good film in itself, 'The Libertine' has some gapingly obvious flaws and I recommend doing some reading from more accurate sources or some internet hunting for your info. :) Hope this was a help!
[edit] Pointless
It would appear that any corrections or additional information that gets added to this section is periodically reset/deleted. As such, the information in this article is no longer accurate, even for something as simple as a birth date. (Which I've already corrected twice.) For those of you using this for information on the Earl, please double check the information somewhere else as this site is clearly no longer reliable.
