Talk:John E. Jones III

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Contents 1 Middle initial 2 Birth date 3 Yo 4 Awesome 5 Golf courses 6 About adding Discovery Institute's claims of copying ACLU brief

[edit] Middle initial

What does the middle initial stand for? Neutrality^talk 22:07, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Edward. [1] Jokestress 22:37, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Birth date

Given as June 13 per Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board. [2]. Good bio, too-- worth a look. Jokestress 22:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Yo

I added a part about John Jones' son, a schoolmate of mine, but someone changed it. I find that fact highly important, as no sane person would plan on going to Drexel. JK, but srsly, John Jones' son John Jones has an important job at my skool.

Please state why you feel it belongs here. Has his son done anything noteworthy? Ladlergo 03:11, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awesome

After the Dover fiasco, he is my god.

I'm sure that even Judge Jones would be uncomfortable with such a supportive statement, but I have to admit that his ruling in Kitzmiller was the first time I had ever read a court decision and actually been excited/invigorated by it. He practically killed the academic aspect of the Creation Science/Intelligent Design movement right there. RPH 03:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Golf courses

I think this may have been in the article before, as relating to Judge Jones's ownership in golf courses, but I do not see it now. Is he related to the golf course designer Robert Trent Jones?

[edit] About adding Discovery Institute's claims of copying ACLU brief

This issue was discussed at length at Talk:Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District#Analysis_of_Jones_copying_ACLU. There it has been shown that the DI's claim that Jones copying ACLU brief was improper is: 1) baseless, relying upon a distortion of normal procedure to imply doing so in opinion is improper (it is both common and proper), 2) one of many attacks on Jones by the DI, none of which have been shown to well-founded or in and of themselves notable. FeloniousMonk 18:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

And note how the DI is using this baseless publicity stunt to sell more of their book about the Dover trial in their press releases. Also note that they used MS Word to do a word count so every time Jones used a word like "the" it was "counted" as if he copied it from the ACLU paper. Stupid. Wiki has no obligation to perpetuate DI propaganda and their smear campaigns, PERIOD. Mr Christopher 18:25, 16 December 2006 (UTC)