Talk:Johann Joachim Winckelmann

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As one would guess from a 1911 source, there is nothing about him being homosexual - which led to his murder.

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someone fucked up some details of this page: 'he attended a meeting at the white house...'

now corrected

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the writing in the article is absolutely appalling - somebody needs an editor. i'm doing some high-school research on Winckelmann and i really got very little from it. 1/10 wikipedia - i'm going to have to actually read some of his goddam books now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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reply:internet gives information not knowledge.. go do ur research....

[edit] Merging

Copied the other article's text, needs to be merged. --Matthead 05:53, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes, present & future

I've cleaned up some of the grammar (a lot of this article gives the impression of having been translated, and poorly, from a German source), deleted the theory that W.'s murderer was his "lover" (no longer seriously entertained -- a simple case of robbery), provided translation of a couple of Italian phrases, deleted digressions on David and the influence of Herculaneum & Pompeii on "taste," inserted reference to Goethe's Winkelmann und sein Jahrhundert in response to an earlier query, and inserted some queries of my own as "hidden comments." The most problematic entry at present is that on W.'s sexuality & lifestyle; i.e. what exactly is the relationship btw. W.'s asceticism and his sexuality supposed to be? I hesitate to delete this section altogether, since the question of W.'s sexuality is, for better or worse, a significant component of his later reception & present interest. But there is good, recent scholarship on the subject that has left no trace on the entry as it stands -- i.e. Alex Potts, Flesh and the ideal: Winckelmann and the origins of art history (New Haven, 1994); Whitney Davis, "Winckelmann's 'homosexual' teleologies," in N.B. Kampen, ed., Sexuality in ancient art (Cambridge, 1986); Whitney Davis, "Winckelmann divided: mourning the death of art history," in W. Davis, ed., Gay and lesbian studies in art history (New York, 1994). --Javits2000 11:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)