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[edit] Dr. Cyril Wecht.

Do you know if he believes that Oswald was not involved in the assassination of President Kennedy at all? Also do you know of any other researchers that hold this opinion as well. Ramsquire 19:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Pleased to make your acquaintance. I don't know if Wecht commented specifically on Oswald's involvement, however, I believe any serious examination of the evidence quickly demonstrates Oswald's innocence. Suggested are Summers 'Conspiracy', Walt Brown's 'Treachery in Dallas', and Henry Hurt's 'Reasonable Doubt'.
The evidence that most clearly exonerates Oswald has to do with his movements immediately following the assassination. Oswald was met by his manager and a police officer in the second floor lunchroom between 70 and 90 seconds after the shooting. According to Warren, this was enough time for Oswald to look out the window, drop the rifle charge down the stairs and arrive in the lunchroom, with a couple of seconds to spare. However, Warren either ignored or was unaware that:
1. The sniper's nest was found 'closed', in other words, the heavy boxes had been pushed back into place after the assassination.
2. Witnesses on the fifth floor testified that it was so quiet that they could hear footsteps on the floor above, yet neither saw nor heard anyone running down the stairs.
3. Two persons on the 4th floor left by the stairs 30 secs. after the shooting, but saw no one on the stairs.
4. The rifle was carefully hidden, not simply dropped.
5. The officer's originally testimony stated that Oswald was drinking a Coke from the lunchroom machine, that's more time still.
Also, Oswald was seen in the lunchroom 5-10 minutes BEFORE the motorcade was scheduled to arrive, he was not on the 6th floor then as Warren claimed. Also, Warren's explanation for how Oswald got a rifle into the building was nonsense, and it never did establish a motive. Hey, thanks for your time. :) JoeGoodfriend 20:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To you

Thanks for your comments. I know it gets confusing, because of the numerous replies from other editors (sometimes sarcastic and without paragraphs) but real humour is always appreciated. Your, "I’m going to stab my own brain with a curtain rod if I think about this much longer", made me laugh a lot :) Thanks. andreasegde 10:51, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


Another point:

"RPJ, please stop this. Full disclosure: I believe President Kennedy was killed as the result of a conspiracy."

Let´s not get personal about this. You say you´re new to this, but I would advise you to take a step back and look at the article, and not get involved in personal squabbles.

I think you will find (and I know that Gamaliel will not mind me saying this) that Gamaliel has extremely strong opinions about conspiracies. He thinks "they´re nuts", and he supports the Warren Commision report, but he is still a good editor and administrator.

RPJ is also for full disclosure, and he´s also a good editor. The two do not agree at all, so read the archive page. RPJ has taken a lot of criticism, which I think was heavy-handed. Because I resented the attacks I was also attacked. "Your hero - RPJ" was one, which made me feel ill. Step back and watch the fireworks, but try and remain neutral.

I´m glad that you´re working on the Kennedy pages, by the way. Have fun. andreasegde 17:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I just want to encourage you to Be Bold and contribute to the Oswald and JFK articles (and any other wikiarticles!). You're an editor like me, RPJ , andreasegde and everybody else. Don't let anyone scare you off from editing a page. Mytwocents 17:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys, thanks for your comments. Let’s look at this situation objectively. I would like to see more of the facts regarding the conspiracy to kill JFK on these pages as much as you would. Now, normally, if you read a history textbook, or an encyclopedia, you’re lucky to get any information regarding any kind of conspiracy, that’s just the way mass media works. But there is some good balance in these articles.
We need to work on the sections that don’t have a good balance, such as the section on the killing of Tippit. Oswald did not kill Tippit, and it’s easy to produce facts that shows he didn’t. But this section just starts with “According to the Warren Commission report,” and has no balance. If anyone has time to work on this, please do so. I can help you with facts regarding this or any other aspects of the JFK articles. Just remember, you can get the truth past Gamaliel, if you do your homework. JoeGoodfriend 21:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Another comment (sorry): Try not to mention specific names of users, because they tend to get a bit irritated by it. They know what they said, and they know why they said it. Let´s all concentrate on "The article", and then we can work together. "If you do your homework", (JoeGoodfriend) is a phrase that should be respected, and embraced. andreasegde 19:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey Joegoodfriend, I think you'll find that most disputes relating to JFK is a result of what is the proper spin to put on the source and not the content of the sources. If you have WP:RS materials by all means add it. As a side note--If you have an issue with an edit of mine, please refer directly to me by name so that I will know you are referring to me. I think editors get irritated when they get accused of vandalism, hiding information, or are told they're stupid or brainwashed, not because someone mentioned them specifically. Ramsquire 20:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment:Clay Shaw

I'm asking for an Rfc [1] on the Clay Shaw page regarding the Max Holland article. Please comment. Ramsquire 17:19, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Newcomers

I thought I should add this to the Oswald page, because it needs it.

"This response (By Sbharris) on the Lee Harvey Owald talk page is frowned upon by Wikipedia: "Don´t bite the newcomers". Sbharris has been editing since November, 2005, and Joegoodfriend has been editing since March, 2006. Sbharris is no position to talk about newcomers. This is not what Wikipedia needs. Please be nice. andreasegde 20:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)" andreasegde 20:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Apologies for this. Ramsquire sorted it out. andreasegde 21:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your consideration. I'm not afraid of going toe-to-toe with Sb, he can be a little mean, but I'll put my knowledge against his any time. Have a look at Sb's contribution history. Apparently, wikipedia is all he does, seven days a week. Joegoodfriend 21:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

Watch for 3RR violation! Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing in Larry Craig. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. - Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 16:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to Larry Craig

You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you do, you may be blocked for disruption. See the blocking policy.

Wikipedia does not publish "unconfirmed rumors", as your edit is headed. Please read WP:BLP carefully, before you get yourself into trouble. Crockspot 16:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

As you were warned above about the three revert rule and have now made a total of over 5 reverts in less than 12 hours on the article Larry Craig I have blocked you for 24 hours. See WP:BLP for clarification that blogs are not reliable sources, especially for articles about living persons.--MONGO 19:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

I've initiated an RfC on RPJ. Please feel free to add your own comments. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 01:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Since Mediation is currently having a severe backlog, I took the case to the Mediation Cabal.Ramsquire (throw me a line) 19:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
This is a notice that I have filed a request for arbitration concerning RPJ. Feel free to add any comments you feel are necessary. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 23:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I added something

This seems to be a simple problem; Editors who stand by the Warren Commision, and those who don't. It's a case of "Yes it is", and "No it isn't". The truth is that nobody knows what happened, because nobody actually saw Oswald actually fire the rifle. This is a fact, despite one or two people saying that "It looked like him". Asking for citations (when all the books written about the subject are POVs anyway) is going nowhere. RPJ is asking that all points of view are included, i.e., "let the reader decide" - which is fair.
I understand that Wikipedia is about facts, but don't forget that Bush and Blair both believed that "Weapons of mass-destruction" were in Iraq before it was invaded. Give RPJ his own page, and stop fighting. Be nice. --andreasegde 20:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 12:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] link to British

Hello, when you want to link to the article about something British, please do not link to British, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as United Kingdom, Great Britain or British English by writing out [[United Kingdom|British]] or [[Great Britain|British]]. Regards, Jeff3000 23:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

  • RPJ is banned from Wikipedia for one year.
  • RPJ is placed on indefinite probation. He may be banned from the site for an appropriate period by any administrator if he edits in a disruptive manner.
  • Edits by anonymous ips or alternative accounts which mirror RPJ's editing behavior are subject to the remedies applied to RPJ. Blocks and bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/RPJ#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

For the Arbitration Committee --Srikeit 05:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Clem

Hi, I wrote the John Clem article. I wasn't sure how to clean it up after another editor added a third picture. You did a fine job, much thanks. Joegoodfriend 05:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. I have to admit that the Wikipedia interface is a bit clumsy for arranging images. The key point about a biography article is that the most representative picture should appear in the upper right-hand corner of the article. If you intend to improve this article further, you may wish to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history#Military person infobox. I personally do not bother with them, but a number of biography editors like them. Hal Jespersen 15:28, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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