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Contents 1 Continent 2 Pluto's not appearing 3 American punctuation??? 4 Spelling of millimetre/millimeter 5 Entering IPA 6 Logical quotes 7 Bot error 8 Logical quotes 9 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can 10 Regional variation in English 11 Merge of Prehistoric Spain with Prehistoric Portugal & move to Prehistoric Iberia

[edit] Continent

What made you think New Guinea was not part of the Australian continent ? Is Britain part of Europe ? Is Japan part of Asia ? Is Java part of Asia ? Are these continental islands part of their continent ? There is a schoolboy myth that 'Australia' the State occupies an entire continent and therefore anything not under control of the Commonwealth of Australia is not part of the continent, but that is a myth. 211.30.95.182 03:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC) Actually I apologise, I responded before reading the rest of the page; I can explain the reason you were not taught to include New Guinea as part of the continent; and that reason is money, or specifically the world's richest deposit of gold & copper in West Papua discovered in 1936 by Standard Oil by using a Dutch company and geology team as cover. As neither the indigenous people nor the Dutch would ever allow a US corporation to mine the sacred mountains of the Amungme people, the Rockefellers and other executives needed a new more US business friendly colonial power to claim West Papua; at the same time they wanted the oil from Sumatra & Borneo, and all sorts of mineral wealth; by supporting Sukarno's claim to be the leader of Java they got his 'Republic' included in the 1949 Federation of the 'United States of Indonesia' which within 8 months fell prey to Sukarno's military and were claimed as part of the 'Republic of Indonesia'; it took 13 to 16 more years but the U.S. executives eventually got access to the wealth of Asia and northern Australia that they had wanted. The confusion about Papua, so that people cant even agree what to call the country; is so that the pass 40 years of genocide in West Papua went unreported in the global media while they keep digging up the gold & copper. Rockefeller and Ford Foundations are the main academic backers to support anything to add confusion and misinformation to discredit West Papuan demands for a end to the ethnic cleansing.211.30.95.182 03:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for this interesting but depressing history lesson. Yes, as I say, considering the Commonwealth of Australia to occupy the whole continent is geologically and biologically flawed. However, isn't the same true of splitting Eurasia in two? Yes, that is what I was taught. If what you write is true, then it's a shame we were taught such things. But, of course, that's what we have been taught and isn't there some degree of conventionality involved when defining a continent? Yes, it's better to include not only New Guinea (the whole NG, of course, not just PNG) but the other Australasian islands but is this what the World considers to be the continent? Jimp 20Jan06

[edit] Pluto's not appearing

Thanks. I don't know why I didn't pick that up earlier :-) —ptk✰fgs 06:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

No worries. Jimp 06:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American punctuation???

Re your recent edit to Melbourne - I was puzzled by your edit summary, which implied that a comma, for example, within the quotation marks was 'American'. I too happen to prefer the comma outside ... it seems more logical, however I'm pretty sure that at least in older editions of the Australian government Style Manual it was specified that commas should go inside the quotes. I don't have any copies with me to allow me to verify this. The labelling of this style of punctuation as 'American' also struck me as a bit antagonistic. Stumps 07:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed reply. When I get back 'home' to Australia — if I remember — I'll try to find the old Style Manual just for interest's sake. Maybe I'm mistaken where I read that recommendation that commas etc go inside the quotes, but wherever it was it stuck in my mind precisely because I didn't like it. Cheers. Stumps 07:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I've been working in Warsaw for a few years. Stumps 09:18, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of millimetre/millimeter

Hi,

Obviously you care about the spelling. Please note that the notice that you change on Swedish krona will be replaced by these 2 templates {{Standard coin table notice}}, {{Standard banknote table notice}}. A global solution must come to term. What do you think about making a parameter to the template like british_english = Y to override millimeter with millimetre? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

It will have to have a default value. I will make millimeter the default value since English language claims that 2/3 of the native speaks are from the U.S.A. What do you suggest for the parameter name. british_english may be politically inappropriate. What about Commonwealth_English? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I am in complete agreement with you. I will stick with the orignal proposal british_english. Commonwealth is too long to type. As long as the output value is correct, I really don't care what the default value is. Ultimately, we the editors should cater to the readers. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, I can do BrE. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Entering IPA

Thanks. DTOx 11:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logical quotes

Hi; I saw that you participated in a previous debate over the location of punctuation in relation to quotations marks, and since I'm not particularly familiar with the Wikipedia system of punctuating quotations, I'd like your opinion on something. Should it be:

George writes that it "gives the impression that it is actively speciating to fill the many ecological niches through its range".

Or,

George writes that it "gives the impression that it is actively speciating to fill the many ecological niches through its range."

I'd like to add an example such as this one to WP:MOS to clarify what exactly a fragment is. The easy cases are dealt with, but it's unclear how a sentence such as this one should be punctuated. Thanks! --Spangineer^ws (háblame) 01:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll post my relpy on your talk page Jimp 04:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks alot! I guess then that we can't just add a rule to the MOS. The problem then is that when someone who doesn't know the system quotes someone, the editor cleaning it up doesn't know whether or not the period was originally there. But I guess it might not really matter that much; in most cases at least. --Spangineer^ws (háblame) 06:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot error

I think my bot may have incorrectly flagged the transwiki as complete for wikt:Transwiki:Australian English vocabulary / Australian English vocabulary.  :-( I'm asking the devs what can be done about a transwiki of an entry with almost 20,000 edits... --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 23:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logical quotes

Thanks for the advice on quotes, albeit given indirectly. I shall keep it in mind as I edit wikipedia. May I ask you punctuation questions in future if I have any? Thanks also for sanctioning the war. I might form a coalition with Asa01 if he is open to a strategic alliance. :) Rintrah 13:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool. I can send your regards to Asa1. But I don't think it is proper I do so with Petrus4, for I am supposed to be at war with him. :) Rintrah 02:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] Regional variation in English

Not sure what you mean Jim; I can't see any formatting that was lost by my edit. Grant | Talk 06:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, Grant | Talk 06:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge of Prehistoric Spain with Prehistoric Portugal & move to Prehistoric Iberia

What's the status and outcome of this discussion, Jimp? I began being against the proposed merge, but know I'm for it. Does anyone demanded a vote? Should we ask for one? The Ogre 17:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I also believe that Pre-Roman Portugal should be also merged. The Ogre 17:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)