Talk:Jessica Pacheco Calvente

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For an August 2004 deletion debate over this page see: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jessica Pacheco Calvente

Page dedicated to Jessica, Shannon and all other stray bullet victims Antonio Praying for their souls and families Martin

Hello. I have changed the name of the school to Gustavo Adolfo Bécquer, the 19th century Spanish poet. I'm assuming "Béquier" was a typo. I could be wrong about that, feel free to revert if so. I wasn't able to find a "Bécquer school" nor a "Béquier school" so I can't say for sure one way or the other. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:46, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Votes for Deletion

Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion Feb 20 to Mar 2 2004, consensus to keep. Discussion:

  • Jessica Pacheco Calvente - child stray bullet victim. Does not belong in an encyclopedia. Sir Paul 21:34, Feb 20, 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. They don't belong unless they make the news. Her death seems to have been covered by the Puerto Rican media. —Frecklefoot 21:45, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
      • Does this mean we should include every single person that makes the news in a newspaper? Does that mean we should include the other 23 individuals who died because of stray bullets that year in Puerto Rico? Of course not. An encyclopedia should register those events that have some degree of historical significance. I concur with Denni that it is a sad story, but our emotional bias should play no role when deciding over the future of an article in this encyclopedia.Sir Paul 23:59, Feb 20, 2004 (UTC)
      • Sir. Paul, only one person died as a victim of stray bullets in Puerto Rico on that New Year. Antonio Frenesi Martin
        • True. But my point still holds: should we include the other 23 persons who died on previous years? Sir Paul 18:16, Feb 21, 2004 (UTC)
    • It's an incredibly sad story, but I question its encyclopedic value. Wikipedia has an advantage over a paper encyclopedia, where the user must give serious consideration to wall space, but does that imply that it is a suitable repository for every human's life transitions? (Sorry to sound callous - don't intend it to be.) Denni 22:47, 2004 Feb 20 (UTC)
      • Is that intended to be a vote, or just a comment? Anthony DiPierro 20:16, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Everyking 02:39, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Ordinary people could belong here, were it, e.g., an illustrative part of a case study. Mikkalai 03:03, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Move to wikimemorial. Wile E. Heresiarch 09:41, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC) Revised vote below. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:46, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Encyclopedias should be wider about a few topics, stray bullet shootings included. Antonio Feroz Martin
    • Keep. Does belong in an encyclopedia. Anthony DiPierro 16:20, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete - Wikipedia is not a morgue. Save for time when we do have Wiki-memorial→Raul654 16:23, Feb 21, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. It is sad, but still is vanity... unless I can add details about all of my dead relatives. Davodd 20:03, Feb 21, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Elf-friend 23:33, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Wikipedia is not paper. BL 10:32, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Just because wikipedia isn't paper doesn't mean we should keep every little thing of limited relevance that somebody decides to post. If wikimemorial isn't up yet, keep until it is, then port it and delete. Bearcat 10:46, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
      • Evidentally it crosses some threshold of relevance as far as Puerto Rican news is concerned. Everyking 20:25, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. The topic of general interest is random shootings. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:46, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Unless there is something special to distinguish this person, the circumstances of their death, or the aftermath, there's no reason to have this. If it MUST be included, put onto a list of shooting victims as a single name and be done with it. Have the name link to an external site.
    • Keep. The topic is of interest to a wide audience and may have increasing value in future as people's history.
    • Keep. The article is of interest to some - me included. I remember it from when it was in Current Events. I'm all for not listing the really obscure - but I don't think this counts as one. Ambivalenthysteria, 2 March 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Iridium77 20:32, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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