Talk:Jerrold Nadler

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jerrold Nadler is part of WikiProject U.S. Congress, an attempt to build a comprehensive guide to the United States Congress. You can help by editing this article. This template adds articles to Category:WikiProject U.S. Congress articles.

This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material of any kind that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous. If such material is repeatedly inserted or there are other concerns relative to this policy, report it on the living persons biographies noticeboard.

This page is about an active politician who is running for office, is in office and campaigning for re-election, or is involved in some political conflict or controversy. Because of this, this article is at risk of biased editing, talk-page trolling, and simple vandalism.

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.	Biography Portal
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article. [FAQ]
	This article is supported by the Politics and government work group.

Seems like he's a member of the Democrat Party - http://www.house.gov/nadler/biography.shtml - sounds like a rather major omission to me not to mention it in the article... More interesting would be a summary of his relations to the party, how dependent or independent his from his Party. Boud 23:49, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I have updated the article, highlighting Congressman Nadler is a Democrat. And the proper name of the party is the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Thank you. --Blue387 07:10, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

". . . civil rights groups like the NRA and Gun Owners of America" sounds like Newspeak to me. While I have no beef with the statement regarding Nadler's relationship vis a vis the NRA et al, to introduce the NRA as a "civil rights group" is clearly an attempt to introduce spin into the discussion. Yes, I get the argument that fighting to defend (one's interpretation of) one of the amendments in the Bill of Rights could arguably make a claim to that term (but it's a stretch); nevertheless, it is so far from common usage that it has no place in a document such as this whose mission is to articulate consensus.

Contents 1 The Colbert Report 2 Voting scorecards 3 NPOV template 4 Partisan railroad jobs

[edit] The Colbert Report

On an episode of the Colbert Report, Nadler referenced having a girlfriend and I think that him having an affair should be in his entry on wikipedia.

Nadler spoke in the hypothetical, I believe about wiretapping conversations with one's wife or one's girlfriend. Colbert then tried to characterize it as an assertion by Nadler that he himself had a girlfriend, which Nadler expressly denied. There is no plausible way to use that as a reference for factually asserting that Nadler is having an affair. Postdlf 20:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Him denying it seemed as him realizing his mistake and trying to cover it up. The controversy should be included in the article, whether he has a girlfriend or not, the controversy around it is worthy of inclusion. 69.218.181.192 03:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Outside the context of Colbert trying to have some humor at Nadler's expense in that Colbert Report episode, where has this even been mentioned or discussed? What's the "controversy"? Postdlf 05:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Nadler said "I don't have a girlfriend" before Colbert even responded. 69.218.181.192 19:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Post, Nadler was back-tracking before Colbert ever tried to pin something on him. Colbert actually gave it up pretty quickly when he realized it might be true and the real Colbert did not want to get him in trouble. 69.218.181.192 00:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I saw that episode of the Colbert Report. It was a joke. Watch it again and get over yourself 69.218 Cornell Rockey 00:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Cornell, if you watch it again, you will see Nadler denies having a girlfriend before Colbert even accuses him of it. 69.218.181.192 18:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Are Republicans born without the humor gene? A group supporting Tom DeLay actually posted a Colbert routine "defending" DeLay on their website! You guys are clueless! Nothing anybody says in a Stephen Colbert interview should be taken seriously.

Furthermore, those interviews are heavily edited for comic effect. Not only should nothing anybody says in a Stephen Colbert interview be taken seriously, nothing anybody says in a Stephen Colbert interview should ever be taken in any sort of context. --Gradient 02:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voting scorecards

Literally hundreds of groups offer voting scorecards. But only one is mentioned in virtually every Congressional biography on Wikipedia. Seems like someone from the "Drum Major Institute" has been working overtime? I think those references are probably worthy of deletion, unless the Drum Major can explain why his group is worthy of mention more than the hundreds of other interest groups out there.

[edit] NPOV template

Why is the NPOV template on this article? -- noosphere 01:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, since no reason has been given for the tag, I'm going to remove it. -- noosphere 14:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

"Although he frequently makes what his admirers describe as courageous stands in the Congress, he has an uneven voting record, stating opposition to both the War in Iraq and the USA PATRIOT ACT but voting to support both. Nadler also voted to introduce a National ID Card starting in 2008 (REAL ID Act), despite statements supporting privacy rights, and he supports left-wing economic policies purportedly to help disadvantaged and improverished members of society but which defy empirical laws of economic prosperity. Although he campaigns as a champion of civil rights, he frequently votes to abridge those rights, such as his consistent record voting against gun rights for individuals under the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights."

I really don't this is objective at all for a bio, and I am a Republican who can't stand the guy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.130.60.218 (talk • contribs) .

Yep. I have to agree. So I've gone ahead and deleted these comments and unsourced assertions per WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. -- noosphere 18:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Partisan railroad jobs

I'm still feeling really uneasy about the line that says Nadler's opponents countered that he "never mentioned the partisan railroad jobs conducted by Democrats". I initially thought it made sense to leave it in in the interests of balance, but the more I think about it, the more I think that this isn't the place to post counterarguments. Posting Nadler's views (that he thought the process was a railroad job) is relevant because the article is about him. Whether or not it was isn't relevant for this article, and so I don't think the line should stay up. What do you all think?

--Gradient 15:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)