Talk:Jerk (disambiguation)

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[edit] As an insult

Why isn't there an article for the insult "jerk"? 67.65.218.81 05:02, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Me to the rescue! Just added this: "Jerk, in the modern English language is usually used as an insult or an attack on someones character. If you call someone a jerk you are implying that they thoughtless and rude. In many cultures faults in ones character often goes unspoken so hearing it being said openly about one can cause deep offense."

I thought that was the best way to put it, explain how it is used, why it is used and why it is offensive. JayKeaton 17:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dab style

I restored the original version of the page because Mikkalai's version had the following issues:

  • The only word that should (usually) be wikilinked is the term itself; further info can be gotten from the article
    • Disagree. Decreases usability. mikka (t) 15:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Parentheses should be shown: ie, The Jerk (film) is preferable to The Jerk
    • Not always. mikka (t) 15:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
  • A term like Jamaican jerk spice is apporpriate for this page. If you were trying to find out what goes in "jerk chicken", jerk is probably what you would think of typing

I agree that "clean and jerk" could be removed. I'm not sure if it belongs or not, but I dont think it harms anything to have it there. What do you think, Mikkalai? - grubber 15:06, 2005 July 28 (UTC)

Sorry for spice. Titles of books, movies, etc., are not formatted as you did. The style needs update. Style page is guidelines, not ironclad rules. mikka (t) 15:21, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Oh, didn't see your response here before I put back the styles. Dab pages should not have any other wikilinks (they clutter the page). I disagree about the books formatting. The parentheses should almost always be shown because they (a) are in the title of the page and (b) provide an easy way to scan a list and figure out which one you're looking for without having to read the whole line. Compare: Barbara Shack 17:02, 22 September 2005 (UTC)Why the f*ck can't the slang stay?

to

  • Field, in mathematics, a blah-d-dah
  • Field, in physics, a something-or-other

You can find your way about twice as fast in the first version as opposed to the second. Further, if other terms in the line were wikilinked, it would make it harder to scan. - grubber 15:27, 2005 July 28 (UTC)

  • Also, regarding the order: (1) plain terms: Jerk, (2) parentheses: Jerk (other), (3) phrases with the term: Jamaican jerk spice, and (4) others. Sorry if I sound "ironclad" on this stuff... I'm trying to help bring a uniform look & feel to the dab pages, mostly for navigational ease. - grubber 15:30, 2005 July 28 (UTC)

I understand your intentions, but I disagree that links clutter. They help understanding the information. As for spice, it must be clearly indicated that it may be referred to as "Jerk", a single word. About parentheses, unlike links, they do clutter the page by unnecessary repetition: "Jerk (band) is a ...band". But I am indifferent here. mikka (t) 16:06, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

  • You're right, jerk can be one word as a spice, so we can leave that. And I'm willing to wait out your discussion on the dab style page regarding wikilinks. I've run into this with another editor and it would be good to have a firm position on the issue, whichever way people choose. - grubber 17:30, 2005 July 28 (UTC)

Barbara Shack 17:02, 22 September 2005 (UTC)Why the f*ck can't the slang stay?

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