Talk:Jens Stoltenberg
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[edit] Movie: Oljeberget
Would anyone care to add that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.213.211.171 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 12 February 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Political background
Some information on his political standpoint and policies he has supported would make this a fuller article. Marking as a stub. Mr. Jones 09:47, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism and media attention
This article DID contain serious flaws. Stoltenberg haver never been in jail for pedophily!
This article made the front page in one of Norway's biggest papers, Dagbladet, when it seemed to contain serious flaws, like stating that Norway's prime minister has done time for pedophily... [1]
- Has this revision been deleted from the history? I could not find it. The article really scandalizes the edit, trying to get comments from Stoltenberg himself, from the IT admin responsible for the IP address used (it was allegedly the work of school kids), and also an apology from a spokesperson from the Norwegian Wikipedia. I wonder how long the allegations were in the article? As far as I understood, the vandalism was quite poorly worded ("pedophilia" is not something you get put in jail for, child molestation is), so I can't imagine anyone would take it seriously. Dagbladet often links to Wikipedia articles, and I've never seen them complain about it like this before, but hey, they're tabloid, and any scandal will do. Haakon 09:17, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- And yes, it got national television (NRK). -- Drange
- Try checking the first few edits in the history, it's at the very bottom of the page in one of them. -- Charm Quark?? 12:39, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jens_Stoltenberg&oldid=31040943 -- Charm Quark?? 20:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
At the end, the article states: "He is generally considered a good guy". Is this statement suitable for a biographical article in Wikipedia? Hardly neutral point of view... I think I'll remove it. Prytz 07:05, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- The revision was out for less than 24 hours. VG, which is even more of a tabloid than Dagbladet, "scandalized" it, saying that "untill recently, readers could read about Stoltenberg being a convicted paedophiliac…" (my emboldment). This is totally wrong. Stupid newspaper. Jon Harald Søby \ no na 09:36, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Rather than "less than 24 hours" I would say "more than 22 hours", which is very bad. Or perhaps I shouldn't complain since he was not on my watch list... Now, most of the Norwegian politicians have been added to my list. --Eddi (Talk) 18:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Stupid indeed. They claim the article is now "removed", and that "if an article is vandalized often, the most objective version is chosen and the article is then locked for further editing". Haakon 09:51, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I have watchlisted this article, it seems to be under attack from quite many now, and I fear that the newspaper attention might encourage some copycat vandalism. :-( Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:42, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
A lot of vandalism going on at this page. Should we request it for page protection? Bogfjellmo 14:49, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
At the moment, this article is getting so much attention that we are reverting the vandalism quite quickly, so a page protection is probably not in order just yet. But I noticed that a vandalism to Kjell Magne Bondevik was left unnoticed for more than an hour, so I have watchlisted that one as well. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:00, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sigh, it has been hit by another onslaught of vandalism, so I have protected it. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:16, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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- How long will it stay protected? Many have this article in our watchlists, which we reload compulsively. Any vandalism is sure to be shortlived. Haakon 11:55, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Vandal
For the record, the pedophilia line was added by 139.164.130.171 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) at 11:47, 9 November 2005, [2] and removed at 10:16, 10 November 2005 [3], with the other vandalism by that IP removed shortly after. The IP also vandalised Red-Green Coalition (Norway) [4], which was removed in about 1.5hrs [5] - better than the 22.5hrs it took here. I've also watchlisted the article. Rd232 talk 10:49, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- ha, I miscounted the time it was up (someone just corrected it). In my defence, I was distracted because I was supposed to be working... Rd232 talk 19:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Some anonymous person 83.108.41.224 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) posted an apology on the discussion page for the article in norwegian WP. no:Diskusjon:Jens Stoltenberg. --ZorroIII 19:36, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- Not sure how credible the apology is from a completely different address. --Eddi (Talk) 04:55, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
I do not think he plays computergames from his office
[edit] Sources
No sources are given in the article, and so the anon's addition of {{unsourced}} is quite valid. Since this has become such a disputed article, I suggest we add a section with a list of sources, and all non-trivial information should refer to at least one source. --Eddi (Talk) 15:51, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sources are always good, but the anon's addition of {{unsourced}} was plainly designed solely to avoid rapid reversion of an edit that had an edit summary abusing an editor. I therefore reverted it anyway, but have no objection to adding the tag in principle. Rd232 talk 17:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
