Talk:Jelena Janković

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[edit] Montenegrin

She decided to play for Serbia.

Montenegrin is removed because she doesn`t play for Montenegro, and that language has not ISO 639-1 code. --Goran.Smith2 18:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Born in Belgrade, studied in Belgrade, plays for Serbia. Does anyone have a source for "Montenegrin origin"? I'm not an expert on the topic, but the Montenegro thing seems to contradict what's in the article bio. -[dM] 05:49, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I deleted that information. If someone wants to put that information, put some references (from some news agencies, or her web site,...). --Göran Smith 11:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it doesn't contradict anything. Her father is Montenegrin, who moved to Belgrade, Serbia, then part of Yugoslavia. The family considers itself to be Montenegrin. After Montenegro declared indepenedence, she was undecided whether she should play for Montenegro or Serbia. I shall add references promptly. I see no need in erasing that informative data, considering Jelena obviously holds her origins to be important. What would be the point of that, anyway? She considers herself to be Serbian now, as she grew up in Belgrade and accepted their identity, but that doesn't change her origins, obviously. Jelena certainly considered it important enough to be puzzled about which country she should represent after Montenegro declared independence in june this year. Quote from the New York Times article I am about to add: "Jankovic, who is the middle child between two brothers, talked of a possible nationality conflict at Wimbledon. Her father, Veselin, is from Montenegro, and her mother is from Serbia. Montenegro voted for independence from Serbia this May." See [1] I presume this should be enough, as it is NY Times after all, but data on her Montenegrin origins abound...just google around for more. Anyways, it is always better to have more data than less. I see no justification in deleting this information anymore. Please do not erase sources and verfiied data. Regards P.S.: I didn't add the NY Times link as a typical reference, as it would seem to be the only one in this article, and I didn't want that. Article needs to be properly referenced throughout, where ever it is needed. So I just added "(See [2])" after the sentence mentioning her origin and undecidedness. Anyone who wants to add this link and others as proper references, is welcome to do so, but it may be a painful job to do for an article this long. --213.240.2.254 05:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

That would be what I wanted. Cheers. I said it seemed to "contradict" not because it was "wrong" but because there was nothing else verifying it in the article which, instead, seemed to suggest the opposite. -[dM] 12:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Read this(I presume you know Serbian,or if you want Montenegrin):www.b92.net/sport/vesti.php?yyyy=2006&mm=09&dd=05&nav_id=210695

My favorite part:"100% sam Srpkinja. Ovde sam jer tamo nemamo takve uslove, nemamo mnogo betonskih terena. Skoro svi srpski igrači imaju neke baze van zemlje. Ja sam 100% Srpkinja, odande sam i tamo pripadam" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.66.169.125 (talk) .

She is very Serbian, there are numerous references to this within the Serbian media. Having non-Serbia parentage of Serbian nationality (eg. Bosnian Serbs, Montenegro Serbs) while holding to the Serbian nationality and identity is not uncommon. I believe her motive for the comments as quoted in the NYT would be to be more politically correct since her comments are very different in the Serbian-speaking media. That being said, I do believe that a reference to Montenegro is in order, although I doubt she ever seriously considered representing the country. Final thought, with regard to her father, would it be correct to say 'Serbian Montenegrin' rather than just 'Montenegrin', since there is now a big difference and her father is the former (I believe that the nomenclature for nationalities and languages in the Balkans is beyond ridiculous but that is a whole other conversation) Cubrilovic 18:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Singles Runner-up

Whoever keeps changing it back to the table, stop. No other player has a table for their singles runner-up page, even Schiavone who only has runner-ups. Leave it as is. It's cleaner. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.176.139.59 (talk) 01:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC).