User talk:Jashiin

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[edit] Welcome to the Wikipedia

Here are some links I thought useful:

Feel free to contact me personally with any questions you might have. The Wikipedia:Village pump is also a good place to go for quick answers to general questions. You can sign your name by typing 4 tildes, like this: ~~~~.

Be Bold!

Sam [Spade] 17:20, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

See Wikipedia:Fair use, read the fair use rationale, and don't forget to add the appropriate image copyright tag, like {{Albumcover}} to the edit summary when you upload. --Viriditas 10:31, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

Thank you for your work on the JCF Fischer article. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 20:45, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] References for J C Fischer article

Hey there. Thanks for responding on my talk page.

My opinion on whether or not CD liner notes can serve as a reference is that probably not. Mostly because those notes had to have sources, and ultimately those sources should be your sources. Perhaps you could try to find out those sources and list them.

In addition, perhaps Amazon might have some titles about Fischer, and you could create a section called Further Reading and list those titles.

TheRingess 23:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)


I'm not an expert, but your additions look good. I think you should remove the unreferenced template. Thanks for responding to my request for sources. Take care. TheRingess 00:25, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] (blush)

Thanks Jashiin, for the compliments. I'll look at Johann Pachelbel again soon. —EncMstr 17:42, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gotta do it again

Sorry, there's nothing to show in Pachelbel yet. I made comments and edits about 10 hours ago, but some wayward website's flash application crashed my browser so I wasn't able to save or keep the work. Anyhow, it's always better the second time.... —EncMstr 04:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I updated Talk:Johann Pachelbel with responses, though one of them probably was better in the first, lost, edit. :-( Someone did a cleanup pass through the article; hopefully that will help. Would you like to make the changes to the article, or should I? —EncMstr 03:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pachelbel

Dear Jashiin,
Thanks for the invitation! I had noticed that your work on the Pachelbel, Fischer, and Kerll articles put them at a much higher level than other articles for German Baroque organists. Since that work has been done, my chief contributions will probably be recordings, musical examples, and expanded bibliography.

I was planning on recording a couple organ pieces of Pachelbel's - do you have any preference for which? The Chaconne in F is covered, and I was going to do a toccata or two, but I can do more pieces (especially since most of them are quite short).

-Sesquialtera II 02:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of works by Johann Sebastian Bach

Hey, I was doing massive edits to the article today and have been planning to do more edits in the coming hours. I noticed you added some things that conflict with what I did (we were both editing at the same time), could we maybe work this out somehow? I could stop editing and let you do the things you want or you could stop editing and let me finish what I began. Jashiin 19:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I thought it was weird there was no section for 'late contrapunctal works' and just started editing. If I had checked, I would have seen that you were in the middle of something. Keep going! --Leo44 (talk) 19:57, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

You're really plugging away at that list, aren't you? Good work! -Sesquialtera II 22:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, maybe the caption should be "Canons and Late Contrapunctal Works", since not all of the canons were composed that late. I believe this is the usual caption for that section, but I don't dare to change it now, haha :). By the way: what source are you using? It looks like a good one. You know Dave, right? Keep up the brilliant work.--Leo44 (talk) 10:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, ideed. This looks great. I'm shocked to hear Dave's contains mistakes, my whole Bach-library is organized after his page! --Leo44 (talk) 10:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Allow me to add my voice to the solid work you have done on the Bach composition page. Outstanding job. When are you going to tackle Haydn ;). Eusebeus 08:16, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Well-earned. Doing my bit to remove redlinks and round out the page. I will have the English Suites Page up in a few. I welcome any review you care to make. Eusebeus 09:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Vielen Dank'! I have removed the Italian reference since I am unsure of it, although I thought it was usually considered Italian (Allamanda, Couranta, etc...).

[edit] German organ schools translation

Looks good - I think the most valuable information is likely to be their opinion on which pieces are the most important for each composer. User:Cor anglais 16 and I have ambitious plans for the organ repertoire page, so we will probably incorporate most or all of this information - he knows French fairly well, too. Thanks! -Sesquialtera II 23:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bach Sub-Article Naming Convention

Hi Jashiin, thanks for the note. Could you weigh in on the naming issue please? (see my message at Tony's page, [[1]] and his response on my talk page. I'll set up a general query on the Bach discussion page; or you could do it in fact given the work on the list of compositions ou have done and the thoughts you may subsequently have on this matter. Btw, on that list page, you will note the problem i am addressing is abundantly clear since the links follow no consistent naming logic at all. Eusebeus 10:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of compositions by Dieterich Buxtehude

totally awesome. -Sesquialtera II 17:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


Yes, brilliant! Isn't it? Very useful. Thanks. So right now, my aim is to write up articles on individual cantatas of Buxtehude; starting with Membra Jesu Nostri. Bach has articles on (many) of his cantatas—although some of them seriously need work still; e.g. this one as Mr. Wessler pointed out—and I don't see why Buxtehude shouldn't! :-)
I truly hope that within a year or so Wikipedia will contain articles on most or all of these cantatas (and possibly other works as well). I think that would be really cool, don't you? Anyway, Cheers! — Trisdee 20:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh yes, I am willing — I will sacrifice my life for Buxtehude cantatas! I am just a little busy at the moment though—assistant conducting Das Rheingold here in Bangkok—so I won't be able to work on those cantatas for a while. But anyway, yes, by all means, create the category! Why ever not!
I appreciate your work. :–)
Trisdee 21:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Great! Cheers, — Trisdee 16:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Hey, I just checked out the Johann Pachelbel article and wow... I really love those musical examples you made! The images, I mean. Those are always useful; they really help you to visualise, to understand the style et cetera much better — I think anyway. Essential stuff...

Really appreciate it  :-) Trisdee 17:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Jashiin, I am glad today has been a wonderful day for you and, indeed, congratulations!!! *smiles*
As for the examples, I think I realise how much time it takes to create them; hence the barnstar; I reckoned you should know that your work (not only the images, of course) is appreciated. Anyway, personally, I wouldn't mind a few more images at all — I find them curiously attractive, probably due to the fact that I enjoy reading music almost as much as listening.
Now, about Pachelbel, I personally think that you can go into detail as much as you wish so long as NPOV is observed and the details given are not about a particular work. Wouldn't you agree? Trisdee 20:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Messiaen samples

Hello! Thanks for your work uploading the sample from L'Ascension. I noticed your query on the article's talk page about which bit of Livre d'orgue or Méditations to upload. I am a bit busy just now, but in a week or so I should be able to get to my scores and come up with a specific suggestion of which bit would be best - I'll let you know. As for photos - I too could probably supply a screenshots of the composer from personal recordings of the BBC's broadcasts on the composer's 80th birthday, but I am fairly sure it would be a copyright infringement. Meanwhile, keep up the good work! Best wishes, RobertG ♬ talk 16:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I had a look as promised - can I ask for two samples, please? I think the best would be a bit of Méditation No. 3 (place it with the passage about communicable language), and a bit of Sioxante-quatre durées from Livre d'orgue to illustrate serialism. I hope that's not asking too much! Very best wishes, --RobertG ♬ talk 11:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Wow, that was well spotted! I agree with you. I have Jennifer Bate's recording of Méditations, but unfortunately not the technology to take a .ogg sample. Thanks for doing Soixante-quatre durés, anyway. Regards, RobertG ♬ talk 17:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Welcome back!

Glad to have you back :) Check out what we've been doing in Johann Pachelbel, I daresay you might like it! You were the one who inspired me to create the images :) Jashiin 19:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Whoa! That page looks really nice. You have put a serious amount of work into it. If you like, I can provide recorded examples to go with each of the score excerpts. I'm already preparing to record 3 complete works: Fugue in C major on the midi, and two Von Himmel Hoch settings. I'll provide more specific commentary on the Pachelbel talk page itself. -Sesquialtera II 15:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goldberg Variations, Variation 12

Hi - thank you for responding so promptly to my earlier post on Dysprosia's talk page - I don't very often edit articles, so I wasn't sure whom to contact. I see what you mean now, and perhaps the best way to make clear what we both mean is to rephrase the sentence. Instead of using the term "inverted" again (it already occurs above in the description once), why not just use "contrary motion"?

It would look something like this:

[In place of this] This is a canon at the fourth (Canone alla Quarta in moto contrario) in 3/4 time, of the inverted variety: the follower moves in contrary motion to the leader. The follower appears inverted in the second bar.

[How about this] This is a canon at the fourth (Canone alla Quarta in moto contrario) in 3/4 time, of the inverted variety: the follower enters in the second bar in contrary motion to the leader.

I won't make the change myself; I see that it's more your place than mine, but I think this is clearer than what I initially wrote.

Thanks!

67.10.173.8 21:55, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: List of compositions by Johann Pachelbel

I made an "Unknown" section for such works, do you think you could help me out with this?
(ie. I thought maybe Perreault has some sort of an explanation somewhere).
I'm not sure if Perreault does have an explanation. I think two of them may be educational works; and others for other purposes; perhaps you could rename the category "Miscellaneous". There are no incipits for any of those pieces, so I can't really tell, sorry.
I was also thinking about making a separate article for a list of doubtful works (the ones marked *),
since they clutter everything up and are somewhat misleading/confusing
(article: "Pachelbel composed three ricercars", list: 4 ricercars, etc). What do you think about this? 
Jashiin 09:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps. It would also be removing some pieces generally considered legitimate, I think, or at least well-known. You could note in the article how the question of authorship is rather murky with Pachelbel in many pieces, and state that your discussion of his works/style includes only the works whose ascription is not questioned. —Sesquialtera II (talk) 16:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] François Roberday

Hello, thank you for your message. I noticed that some of the pages I wrote on fr:Wiki had been translated by you, and I am glad to help enhancing en:Wikipedia. Beau-frère in French is someone's sister husband, or someone's wife brother. I think it is well translated by brother-in-law, but would appreciate if you confirm it. And please feel free correcting my mistakes! Best regards. Gérard 13:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I wrote André Raison and Jacques Boyvin by translating my articles in french to english. Could you, please, check and correct them as needed ? Thanks Gérard 19:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I can try translating the two articles about German an French organ schools because I wrote the greater part of them, indeed, either as anonymous, or under pseudos Ratigan/Gérard. But you will have to "polish" my english which is not accurate enough :°) Even in France for the French ones, all those composers are not very well known, without speaking of good references. Gérard 20:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: thanks

No worries. I found the pages interesting; there are just so many early composers who are almost unknown these days. Graham talk 13:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Russian translation of Pachelbel article

(In case you didn't see the comment at my userpage.) Thanks a lot for commenting the translation! Sometimes I was in doubt about certain sentences, so please tell me when you see I'm wrong again (I mean not only this translation, but my translations of other Baroque composers articles). I've made corrections to the text. The sentence about Lutheran religious practice looks like this now: Отчасти это обусловлено лютеранской традицией пения хоралов, которое сопровождалось игрой на домашних музыкальных инструментах (вёрджинелах и клавикордах). D'you think I got your idea? If no, please explain it to me at my page. And finally, let me thank you for such incredible work that you've done: articles which contain such amounts of detailed information are very rare, even in English Wikipedia. Your work is really inspiring! ru:Abyr (talk)

[edit] Février, Balbastre and c°

Hello, Jashiin. The "Jacobins" is as religious (monastic) order. The "club des Jacobins" was a political movement whose name comes from the fact that they met in a building formerly owned by the monastic order. As for Claude Balbastre, his mentor in Paris was Jean-Philippe Rameau. Best regards. Gérard 10:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JS Bach: style

Hi—Can you have a look at what I've done to the section?

Tony 08:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pachelbel

R u working it up for FA candidature? Tony 07:48, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Can't do anything until after work deadline Monday. Let me copy-edit P. before nomination. Tony 09:07, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pachelbel meets Sibelius

Hello,

I'm saddened to see that you don't frequent these parts anymore, although I certainly haven't for a while either--however, I've returned, and (finally) made some aural examples for the Pachelbel page. Upon recording the excerpt for the Toccata in C major, I discovered that four notes in my edition differ from yours--3 in m. 5 and 1 in m. 8, all in the left hand. I wonder if perhaps we could edit the score slightly to reflect the recording. I would be happy to do so if you sent me the .sib file (you would have to convert it to Sibelius 3, however, I don't have 4). Let me know, and I hope you are doing well! —Sesquialtera II (talk) 00:31, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

Hey,

It seems that fair use on WP is much more restricted than I had thought. You will probably have to remove whichever copyrighted recordings you've used (e.g. [2] -- I don't know if there are others). See the fair use talk page; it's been quite the controversy, focused on the Bach aural examples. The argument goes something like this: since Pachelbel's scores are public domain, it is possible to make a free reproduction of them; therefore, we should not use any commercial versions of Pachelbel's music (or any other music in the public domain). Rather unfortunate if you ask me, but looks like it's the official word around here. —Sesquialtera II (talk) 18:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hi there, I've just recently started getting into Wikipedia, it's really nice to find someone who writes so well and knows their stuff. I've recently done some work on the fugue and false relation pages, was just wondering if could get some feedback if you have the time, although i more than realise there is so much more work left to do of course... I'd really like the harmony page to be sorted out eventually, though it seems like an impossible task! Matt.kaner 23:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey thanks for your reply. I agree about the entry/episode structure some kind of chart may be a good idea; I think it would also be nice to have a short section, perhaps linking to separate article on the sort of material used in the episodes with some examples.
- As far as I can tell there are several definitions of counter-exposition, I have seen it used interchangeably with 'middle-entry', and I think as you described it can also denote any 're-exposition' with the keys/opening scale degrees switched around, or for example ,I've seen it used to describe 're-expositions' with the subjects and countersubjects in inversion (like in the G major fugue WTC book I). I guess the best thing to do since Grove is pretty unclear on the subject, just mention the various uses of the term, and keep basic middle-entries separate. The examples you have look great, the Pachelbel sounds like a good idea to me + I have most of the Bach WTC fugues in lilypond format, which can easily be manipulated into diagrams (like the one for false entry I created).
Free counterpoint isn't a fugue specific term, you're right of course ! - But it is the correct term to describe material that accompanies the subject at one point but then does not reoccur in this role again - like in the f sharp minor fugue, WTC book II beneath the answer in the exposition, - I have a couple of references for this that I can use.
Anyway thanks very much for your advice, there is lots left to be done but hopefully (when I get enough time) it'll end up looking ok. Matt.kaner 16:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pachelbel

Hey Jashiin, I take it you're quite busy/don't have much time for wikipedia at the moment, but I just thought you'd like to know that I put the Pachelbel article up for peer review, as I thought the B rating after all that hard work was a bit harsh, the comments are all very positive, and can be seen here - as you'd probably guess the main issue seems to be footnotes/citations...

best wishes Matt.kaner 00:20, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fugue

Hey again - sorry to bother you Jashiin, I was just wondering - you mentioned those short Pachelbel fugues that you have in sibelius - (or even if you have a copy of the sheet music i can typeset myself) - and I've come to the point with the fugue article now that I think putting in an entire short fugue would be worthwhile - so if it's not too much trouble do you think you could upload a couple or email them or something? thanks. Matt.kaner 17:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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