User talk:Janejellyroll

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[edit] ENOUGH

I AM TRYING TO MAKE A PAGE ABOUT OUR GROUP A.M.C! Why are you deleting this!? i am giving a reason as you specified. This really stupid. Also, im not so sure if you are the one, but my friend created another club too about maps and cities. Stop deleting htat too. Its not like wikipedia should not expand. Wikipedia is a free place. People get known here. If you delete my posts, then the A.C.M will never expand. for people like you, you ruin people's hopes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reaper90210 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

I responded on your talk page. janejellyroll 02:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alright

You delete every message that I leave on your talk page without responding, you ignore attempts to start a discuss on the article talk page, you revert edits without using an edit summary, and you deleted the "sources" tags placed by myself and another editor. Please explain how you think statements like "His parents are said to have supposedly divorced" is consistent with WP:BLP and other Wikipedia policies. If you continue to revert edits, I will have to go to the administrator noticeboard and notify administrators on what is going on here. Please, let's discuss this instead. janejellyroll 05:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I delete every message that you leave because I already read it (and the yellow mark annoys me everytime I go to a wiki page), and I didn't think I had to respond every time. I didn't know I had to start a discussion on the article talk page (about what exactly?), and I also thought the edit summary was optional, yet I guess I should have written something for you to know why. The source tags I stopped deleting after your message and even tried to find what you're looking for in it; I just thought the SECOND one wasn't needed because there is already one in the top that says "This ARTICLE (meaning the whole thing) or section...", so it already speaks to that fact of every section, and didn't need one in the "Personal Life" part. "For the "His parents", you could have simply erased it or told me and I would have.

I reverted the former edit because I thought some wise guy/girl (Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, right?) erased it, since there wasn't a problem with keeping it before, or after I left my message here. I honestly didn't suspect another editor.

I'm just going to edit his "Personal Life" section and erase it, because there's no point in keeping it when there is only two sentences, and it would save everyone the trouble. Or do you want me to just erase the "his parents" sentence, since the rest is pretty much save and doesn't really reveal anything except what most know? I mean, is only about what he's done with his drumming through life, his school activities (he was obviously working in his school's newspaper, since he interviewed Jack for it, as he said on the DVD and on that kids' magazine interview), that he has a brother, a sister, and a dog, that he was in two magazines (I posted the link for the first, and there is a picture for the Popstar one), and what his interests are. Which is why I don't understand why everything was gone after I saw it. If that's a crime, then it will better for it to be non-existent then. I'll delete it for now, and wait to see.

And about the reliable sources, again, what is it that you're looking for? You can't find a credible citation. There was Kevin's official site (is that credible?), and I visited, but it was shut down, so I can't prove whether everything was gotten from there or not.

If a credible citation for information cannot be found, then it should not be in the article. I agree that there is no need for a "Personal Life" section of only two sentences, so if you want to delete the whole thing, then all right. The bottom line is that all information should be attributable {per WP:ATT). As for deleting your talk page messages, that is your right. However, if somebody brings up a concern on your talk page, you might also want to respond to it so that they know that you've read it. Edit summaries help other editors see what it is that you're doing and what your motivation is behind a specific edit. They are optional, but that doesn't mean that they are not incredibly useful. janejellyroll 05:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

 Please keep my new entries on various youth group events; CHIC '88, CHIC '91, CHIC '94, Jesustyle, etc. These were major events attended by tens of thousands over the years and are noteworthy in the history of American evangelical church movements. I will complete the entries soon and footnote and cite these soon if you allow them to be posted.

Thanks, MarineEric

An administrator will take a look at the article and make a decision. If you plan on making improvements, please note this on the article's talk page and the administrator will take that into account. janejellyroll 09:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Can you please tell me why you had put a notability notice in the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmi_Nature_Cure_and_Yoga_Center. Actually i am from kerala and i know about this hospital which is one of the best hospitals of the place. Please tell me what i should add to the article to remove this notice of notability

Thank you, Kiran kirantnath


[edit] Good job on patrolling

Congratulations for your job on patrolling websites. I have started to play around with Wikipedia in the last couple of days, and created some random, non offensive, websites. You were fast and precise on your comments. It is because of people like you that Wikipedia is this great website. Take care! Riauhobi 10:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!  :) janejellyroll 05:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit]

Thanks for helping revert vandalism on Tara Reid. It must have required a fair amount of vigilance to revert 13 vandalisms in 37 minutes (that is, watching the History page, etc.)

In case you were wondering, the hosts of the main radio channel of Triple J told people to do it, and they did. They later commented on the sprotect, and moved on.

Also, you might find God-mode lite, a piece of code people can use for anti-vandalism, useful. Just copy this to your Monobook.js... I'm just mentioning it if you want to use it. It supports a psuedo-admin rollback, which is useful for reverting vandalism, so long as you don't abuse it. (Also, see information on vandal-reverting IRC channels, which are quite useful, in WP:IRC). Thanks for your help. GracenotesT § 17:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Missed Some Vandalism

There was some vandalism you missed on the Mario Lopez article. Compare my version with yours and you'll see what I mean. Acalamari 02:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I had a feeling that there might be some more. Thanks.  :) janejellyroll 02:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I've just seen it. The vandalism I removed has been there for a while it seems, and now some User with a rude name (who will likely be blocked) re-added it. At least you reverted it. Acalamari 03:00, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
It seems that the vandal was blocked by the Arbitration Committee, both for vandalism, and for having an offensive Username. Acalamari 04:20, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Racist

user janejellyroll has shown clear discrimination against canadians and their heritage.

Rather clear discrimination against nonsense articles. janejellyroll 05:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

if u think canadian heritage is nonsense you're a bigger racist than i previously imagined. your are reprehensible.--Clayzer 05:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

OK - well now I am an embarrased Canadian. Wrap garbage in a flag it is still garbage. Need any help with this let me know.Peter Rehse 05:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
They'll get bored soon enough.  :) janejellyroll 08:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BCKEAI

- Good luck on this one - I am already struggling with his autobiography. The page is a complete copyright violation of www.bckeai.co.uk/ and sub-pages. I do this through you because I don't want him to get the feeling he is being ganged up on.Peter Rehse 05:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll add the copyvio info to the talk page. janejellyroll 05:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)



[edit] Thanks!

Thank you for reverting vandalism on my user page some days ago! --Goochelaar 14:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Cran

Thanks for the heads up on that - I only looked at the 1st 50! revisions of that disambig page - what a mess. I didn't see the other 50+ :( I'm going to go over to the admin page and request a semi-protect on that for a while, maybe the Canadian Cran will get tired and go away... SkierRMH 08:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Stay Miles

Wow, you're fast! -- Randall00 Talk 21:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] vweston

I'm handling the WP:3RR report. Just a heads-up so we don't duplicate effort. — coelacan talk — 03:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. janejellyroll 03:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
And it's done. We might as well go wander off and do other things for now. After the 24h is imposed, one of us can revert again. No need to keep fighting at this moment. — coelacan talk — 03:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Question about policy: since this is a content dispute, would I violate 3RR by reverting once the 24h is imposed? I don't want to break the rules and I'm fairly new. janejellyroll 03:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually 3RR means no more than three reverts in a 24 hour period. It's the fourth that gets a block. So you and I each have one revert left. The report is at the bottom of WP:AN3 so if you want to watch that page, when the "Result" part changes then you'll know, and you can revert then if I don't beat you to it. =P — coelacan talk — 04:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! janejellyroll 04:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Much like you, I'm new here and am also handling the WP:3RR report "may as well wander off a bit... "Vweston3554 04:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

What? janejellyroll 04:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Who knows. I'm going to leave one more clarifying note at the user's talk page, and then I recommend WP:DR#Second_step:_Disengage_for_a_while. — coelacan talk — 04:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
That's fine. However, she did just remove a speedy deletion tag from a completely unrelated article I had tagged and leave a disparaging comment about me there. I'm going to retag the article, but I'll refrain from leaving any comments to her. janejellyroll 04:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC) Edit Here is the link to that [1]. janejellyroll 04:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm concerned with your actions stating that I am deleting your comments which is completely false. Please speak the truth. You are new here and no doubt you are still learning the system. Vweston3554 04:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The truth: Here is a link to one revision where you deleted my comments: [2]. You also deleted my attempt to start a discussion at Talk:Victoria Woodhull. Anybody who looks at the history of my user talk page and the history for Talk:Victoria Woodhull can see the truth. There is no need to be patronizing about the length of time I've been an editor. The system has clear guidelines about conflict of interest and the 3RR--you are the one who is still "learning the system"--not me. I don't want to fight with you--all I ask is that you stop deleting my comments on this talk page and others. janejellyroll 05:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Keshia Chanté

Hi Janejellyroll,

Thanks for your recent edit on the Keshia Chanté page. For some reason, there has been a lot of vandalism and edit warring on that page lately. I have been trying to help out in keeping the article clean, but I'm not very familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines for dealing with these types of problems. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! WatchAndObserve 14:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad there is another user keeping an eye on the page for Wikipedia guidelines. I saw in the edit summary that you had removed the DOB previously. I think that, until we can get a source cited for this information, that this is a great idea. I've removed the DOB from the article for now and started an area on the talk page to discuss the issue. janejellyroll 19:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. My concern is that there seems some registered users (e.g. User_talk:Myaperez, User_talk:MsDesiraeJ, User_talk:Tyty06) who continually revert helpful edits and insist on putting unsourced material and abusive comments in the article. What can we do about them? I know that it is possible to put warnings on their talk pages, but I am not sure of the Wikipeidia policies concerning this issue. Thanks! WatchAndObserve 19:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
If they do non-vandalism reverts more than 3 times in 24 hours we can report them under the 3RR rule. If they ignore Wikipedia guidelines and community concensus, then we can report them to administrators. At that point, an uninvolved person would look at the page and review the edits and offer their contributions. If we're talking about unsourced edits and unuseful comments, then we shouldn't have a problem keeping that material out of the article. For specific options, look at WP:DR. I look forward to keeping this article in good shape with you! janejellyroll 19:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello janejellyroll & WatchAndObserve, I suggest you message Keshia on her SONY/BMG owned Myspace Page where she has and WILL address any inaccurate information on her career. For proof that www.myspace.com/keshiachante IS her official myspace page, visit www.KeshiaChante.com, her official site, and click "MySpace" at the top of her page and it will direct you there, as well, click her "Blog" and it will ALSO direct you to her official myspace page. Because we cant provide valid proof of Keshia's messages, what we CAN see ON her actual page is her birthdate, which IS June 16th. MTV Canada & MuchMusic have posted inaccurate information because their programmers used sites like Wikepedia that provided that false information.

As for DesireaJ, on her official website, they posted her as an abuser and she was the main reason they had to shut her message board down, because user Desirea J continued to post vandalism. The 3 users you named for creating vandalism, click their "USER" in the history section, select the section "(last)" on the left of her name and you can see the amount of vandalism posted by both [[User_talk:Myaperez}} and User_talk:MsDesiraeJ, From my understanding User_talk:Tyty06) is an actual representative of Keshia Chante, Keshia Chante Management and SonyBMG Canada.

I decided to change information and put actual facts such as Keshia's idol, Tupac, admirers- Beyonce & Christina, Birthday, Ford and offered Refrences. One of which, has Keshia Chante's official Bio sent out through Sony in New York (http://www.teenmusic.com)

For anything else, please let me know. (User: 74.113.2.4) Jan 26/2006 9:30pm

Thank you for taking the time to respond. The birthday is sourced now and that is great. I appreciate you taking the time to post references. The only thing that I'm concerned about in the article currently is the information about her sharing a birthday with Tupac. It isn't that I doubt the accuracy of this information (because you have sourced it), it is that I don't believe it is appropriate information for the lead of the article. Let's keep it in the article, but move it out of the lead--for example, in a trivia section--where it was earlier. Also, I'm confused because some versions of the article have her birth middle name listed as "Deanne" and others have it listed as "Chante." Do you have a source for her birth middle name? Thanks for your time. janejellyroll 02:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


User_talk:Tyty06 here. I AM a representative for Ms. Chante and I'm providing my services to fix the vandalism because as you see from the previous post, media curcuits DO use Wikipedia for additional information and has created quite a bit of confusion. User_talk:MsDesiraeJ HAS been stalking Chante for quite some time and has been making an impact on factual information for a long time.

I checked the refrences, I do NOT see any refrences pertaining to Chante's middle name as "Deanne", did I miss something? Chante's name is "Keshia-Chante Harper". If you need a refrence, I can have added to her Official Myspace Page her full name of Keshia-Chante Harper to end this confusion. I have already had management add "June 16" to her myspace to end this confusion and will make sure more is done so that this article can be kept clean for it is crucial in Chante's representation.

Hi. I was responding to previous edits in the article that had listed her middle name as "Deanne." I wanted to clarify what her correct birth name was. Thank you for clearing that up. Also, if you are going to be editing the article and you are a representative of the subject, please read WP:COI. Wikipedia generally frowns on having subjects or people who work for the subject's edit articles. That doesn't mean that it isn't allowed, it just means that you should be familiar with the COI guidelines so you know what pitfalls to avoid. I think we both have the same goal, which is to maintain an article which is accurate and free of vandalism. janejellyroll 02:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Heyjanejellyroll, I previewed the WP:COI. I will not be posting on this page so long as information on my client is kept clean and accurate. Media DOES use this website for information and it is unfortunate that so many "doubts" have been created through users like DesireaJ who have tried to slander Chante's name and information. I understand that it's okay for me to post, but not necessarily the best idea. I appreciate your work here on wikipedia and I will trust you and supporters of Chante to keep this clean.

Actually, I'd never heard of your client before I stumbled upon the edit war for this article, but I am very interested in fighting vandalism on Wikipedia. I appreciate your interest in keeping the article verifiable and accurate. janejellyroll 03:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


--- janejellyroll, as you can see User MyaPerez has already started vandalizing. I actually thought u were not a fan of Chante, thus why I put "and supporters" as opposed to "other supports" :)

Ahh, I see.  :) I have reverted those edits and have left a warning on her talk page. If she continues to disrepect the process and insert her own edits, I will report her to the administrators. janejellyroll 03:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi janejellyroll, thanks again for your help in keeping this article clean! WatchAndObserve 21:44, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


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Hey janejellyroll, just a quick FYI: Usertalk Beychonte, DesireaJ and MyaPerez are ALL under the same IP Address and is the same person.

[edit] Eric Dill

JaneJelly: On the Eric Dill Wikipedia entry, the record should state that he was formerly with The Click Five but left the band to pursue a solo career. This is clear from his official website at http://www.ericdill.com. However, individuals with malicious intent keep appearing and vandalizing the page. We have contact Wikipedia about it but instead you keep reverting the page back to link to The Click Five. Again, Eric Dill is no longer part of The Click Five so his listing should be separate.

Actually, I've only made that particular reversion once. Another editor initiated that, but I agree with it 100%. Currently there is zero evidence that Eric Dill is notable enough outside of his time with The Click Five to meet the standards of WP:N. By itself, the article stands a high chance of being nominated for deletion. If sources (other than just a link to the subject's personal website) could be added to the article demonstrating that notablity requirements are being met, then perhaps the article could stand alone. janejellyroll 20:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for responding so quickly. Here is the problem... While the notability can be achieved later, for now then the listing should just be removed altogether. Individuals with malicious intent keep changing the information despite your redirection. The second problem is that your redirection goes to The Click Five. These same individuals are editing The Click Five webpage and claiming that "Eric Dill was fired from the band." They do not provide any sources for this. This is not the case since Eric Dill left the band. Therefore, perhaps you should just delete the Eric Dill listing for the time being so that no one can make any changes to it until Eric Dill's representatives have time to edit the wikipedia entry providing notability.
I appreciate your position, but I urge you to read WP:COI. Eric Dill's representatives should not be editing his Wikipedia entry, as it would probably be in violation of our conflict of interest policies. And for Wikipedia purposes, being able to achieve notablity "later" is the same thing as not having it at all. Right now Eric Dill is apparently notable as a former member of The Click Five and it seems like the redirect is appropriate. I'll take a look at the article and see if there is any inaccurate or unsourced information that can be removed or clarified. janejellyroll 20:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
That is fine then. I have no issues with your statements. However, please make sure then that the information on The Click Five listing is accurate since the claim that the individual was "fired" from the band cannot be sourced anywhere. Thank you for taking care of this matter.
Nor can the fact that he's not with the band. Until The Click Five announces that Eric Dill has left the band or has been fired, nothing should be said about him no longer with the band. Char645 01:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Wow . . . good point. *blushes* I hadn't even realized that. janejellyroll 01:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I've left my feelings about Dill and the Click Five on the Click Five's talk page. I just wanted to make sure you had a chance to read them.--Char645 02:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mythical Canadian bands

Hi, and thanks for your excellent recent work on RC patrol. If there is any more nonsense relating to "Top Gun Mach 2" or similar, please let me know directly. Thanks. Newyorkbrad 03:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. janejellyroll 03:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] About the FTE day page

I just want to say that I understand where you are comming from, and I appreciate that you are probably used to having to delete spam and hoaxes all the time. But I hope that our dedication in improving the article and posting arguments to keep the page have shown that we are serious about this page. Also, I personally have been using wikipedia for years. I started using wikipedia only a few months after it first appeared on the web! I am NOT a spammer, and I am not here to post hoaxes. FTE Day is something I have celebrated for years. Since it has recently been made official (organized at least) I thought it would be nice to finally post an article. Please dont fight to destroy our work, please help to support our article and show others that it deserves a place on wikipedia. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by QuintusMaximus (talk • contribs) 10:02, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

I don't think that this is a hoax. I think that it does not yet meet WP:N. If you give your new holiday time, it may someday meet the requirements and then an article would be much more plausible. janejellyroll 10:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I suppse you have a point. But I still think that it has had pleanty of time. It has a short but interesting history, it has followers and practitioners, it has customs and everyting... I really think that it is a perfect candidate for an article right now. I dont see how it is going to get MORE elegible. It it got more followers and a few comments in some blogs... whatever, you are not going to notice it any more. It is about as elegible as its going to get. And it is pleanty ready to be an article. -- QuintusMaximus 10:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
It will be more eligible when you and other supporters of the article's inclusion can point to numerous press references and say "Here you go." Look at the Flying Spaghetti Monster page, for one example. Right now there is nothing to distinguish your day from something that was just made up out of the blue one day (I'm not saying this is the case). It isn't verifiable information WP:V. janejellyroll 10:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay... but you are only concidering internet sources... people who celebrate this holiday just havent created an official site... i guess I could start one... but what would that prove... And i probably cant, because my webspace is not owned by myself and the owner probably wouldn't want me to post "Fuck the Earth" on his website. But I can assure you that there are many practitioners, and if you give us a chance, myself and the others I can talk to about this who also celebrate it, cna all improve the wikipedia page and once there is a website for this holiday we will point to it and use it as a reference. Please allow the page to stay up so we CAN add the improvements *i agree* it does need. Thanks... -- QuintusMaximus 10:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Not just internet sources. Books, newspapers . . . those would be acceptable also. Also, it will be the result of the AfD discussion that determines if the article is deleted or not, not a decision from an individual editor. janejellyroll 10:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
yeah, but its still one persons judgement of the AfD discussion right? Not just a vote count?... -- QuintusMaximus 10:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
You're right--it isn't a vote count. People make their arguments based on established Wikipedia policy and a decision is made from those arguments. If it would help, WP:DEL has more information on the policies surrounding deletion. janejellyroll 10:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay, A group of us are considering writing the local paper, so, if they publish that will give this more validity...? seems odd, but we'll give it a shot. If they turn us down though, i dont think that it would make us less valid or give us less right to a wiki article... -- QuintusMaximus 10:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
You should post that on the discussion page, not on a user's talk page. Dearingj 11:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and also -- Hmm, Lets see. I believe the words "I declare april 25th, Fuck the Earth Day" were spoken by Jon Stewart on the daily show, on National Television. If THAT isn't enought media coverage, i dont know what is! -- QuintusMaximus 12:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)



[edit] Gabriels Fallen Trivia

I don't know how to verify the trivia, I'm in the band myself (Chris Saunders) so other than first hand experence I don't know how to back it up. Anyway we can do a revert? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fiend1138 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

Firsthand experience doesn't count for the purposes of WP:V. In order for information to be verifiable, other people have to be able to check it out. This is why editors cannot use themselves as a source. Also, if you're going to edit articles about your own band, I suggest you read WP:COI. Wikipedia policy generally frowns on editors editing articles about themselves, their projects, or companies they work for. janejellyroll 05:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Gabriels Fallen Trivia

It's okay, I think I know how I can supply a source for the trivia section, I won't make any further changes to the section until I can obtain them, thank you for your time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fiend1138 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC).


All facts have been reviewed and accepted by Gabriels Fallen. Thank You. --Fiend1138 20:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm a little concerned about the language of "accepting" the facts, and I'd be thrilled if there could be more sources that didn't come directly from the band. Did you read WP:COI? I have deep concerns about this article. janejellyroll 02:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Man Whose Hands are on The Ledge and The Clay

The poem does not talk about any person. The poem talks about experience, and does not at all refer to any personal objective. It does not tell anything about persons, or race or anything offensive. I hope you understand.

I do understand. However, both these articles fail to demonstrate the notability of the subject. In fact, one of the poems was only written yesterday. Please see WP:N for more information about notablity policies on Wikipedia. janejellyroll 04:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Please elaborate... I'm sorry I did not quite view any personal notability of the persona in the poem

The issue is that the poems are apparently non-notable. When you're writing a Wikipedia article, one good question to keep in mind is "Why should the reader care about this subject?" In the case of these articles, we have two unpublished poems written very recently by an anonymous author. The poems haven't had a notable influence. Did you look at WP:N? That page provides really good information about notability. janejellyroll 04:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

yes i did. i did get the idea. i'm very sorry. well, honestly the poems are posted here for promotional purposes

Then it is likely that they will be speedily deleted. Wikipedia is not a place to promote things. janejellyroll 04:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

okay. sorry. but can i place them at wikisource?

I'm sorry, but I don't know the answer to that question. You might try to find a page with Wikisource policies for inclusion. janejellyroll 04:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

does a poem have to be renowned universally for it to be a wikipedia article?

No. But it does have to be notable. Notability could be established by citing sources where people talk about the poem . . . such as reviews or books. It has to influence people in some way. Look at Daddy (poem) or The Waste Land if you would like to see examples of articles about notable poems. These are poems that have made a lasting impact on society and are notable enough for their own Wikipedia articles. Even if an individual poem isn't notable enough, it is possible for a poet to be notable enough for an entry. Take a look at Audre Lorde to get an idea of what this type of article might look like. While a poem doesn't have to be renowned universally, it is incredibly unlikely that an unpublished poem written in the last few days by an unknown author will be notable enough for inclusion. janejellyroll 05:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

okay i get the point. thanks. you can erase it now. sorry for the article.

No need to apologize.  :) janejellyroll 05:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Eternal Decision Afd

Hey Jane. I'm gonna stop with this Afd before it gets out of hand. But, in your honest opinion, am I being out of line here? --Tractorkingsfan 10:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

No. If that editor has a problem with an article you've created, he's free to utilize the AfD process himself. The AfD for Eternal Decision is not the place to bring things like that up. His behavior has been unpleasant through the whole discussion and it seems as if he would rather focus on anything except Eternal Decision. It was wrong to accuse you of being a hypocrite because there is zero evidence that you haven't acted in good faith. janejellyroll 05:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Travia

Hey Jane this is Lizard from Travia. I've added references and third party sources (IGN, MMOsite) and well as another credible source (Game&Game Tour). Can the tags be deleted now? Or does the article still have a problem.

User:LizardPariah

To my eye, those sources you've cited look like little more than links to the game itself. The language is very similar in all of them. Have there been any magazine articles or longer reviews of the game? There is still no information in the article about notability. janejellyroll 05:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kadism

I saw your edit there throught the recent changes... the page was created with the hangon tag, and the editor's only purpose in such is to 'let it grow', as per his reply to you. It's nonsense and a probable prank. It should be deleted, and probably salted. I suspect that if Checkuser could 'fish' for all accounts from that IP, we'd find another, far more experienced editor, who is creating a prank here. migh even be a banned/blocked user. ThuranX 04:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's clearly not on the up-and-up. I agree it should be salted--users like this usually don't give up easily. janejellyroll 04:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Big Brother (Neopia)

Hi, im working on the page. It may seem stupid now, but it's not, and once its completed if you still believe it should be deleted than feel free to delete it...But give me a chance please. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 3bay sam (talk • contribs) 08:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Big Brother (Neopia)

Hi, im working on the page. It may seem stupid now, but it's not, and once its completed if you still believe it should be deleted than feel free to delete it...But give me a chance please. 3bay sam 08:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

If you need time to work on the article, follow the instructions on the template to place a "hold on" tag on the article. Then detail on the talk page how you plan to improve the article to meet Wikipedia expectations. This way an administrator can look and what you plan to do and go from there. In the future, it may be a good idea to have more information about notability in the article before you post it, that way another editor won't tag it before you get a chance to work on it. Please let me know if you have any questions. janejellyroll 08:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi thanks, ill post something on the talk page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 3bay sam (talk • contribs) 08:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Mormonism and Christianity - prima scriptura

You recently changed "Catholics teach Prima scriptura (the Bible above all) but give equal weight to Sacred Tradition. " to "...but give consideration to Sacred Tradition".

I agree that 'prima' and 'equal' are contradictory, but the Prima scriptura article says:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear on the full equality of Scripture and Sacred Tradition: "Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honoured with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence." The primacy of scripture over Sacred Tradition is not an authoritative Roman Catholic teaching; on the contrary, the Church is very clear that the authority of Sacred Tradition is equal to that of Scripture."

also:

"While modern theologians may argue that prima scriptura is the de facto position of the Church, the de jure teaching of the Church is that Scripture and Sacred Tradition are equal authorities."

So, without restating the entire prima scriptura article within the Mormonism and Christianity article, I think it is appropriate to say 'equal weight'.

I changed it back to 'equal weight'. If you still have a problem with this, let's discuss it further at Talk:Mormonism and Christianity.74s181 02:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but the Prima Scriptura makes the distinction between the de jure and the de facto positions of the Catholic Church clear and I don't feel that the language in Mormonism and Christianity does that. But, as I'm apparently the only editor to feel this way, I won't make a big deal about it. Thanks for taking the time to let me know why you reverted my edit. janejellyroll 02:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Highland Springs High School Deletion Tag

PLEASE DONT BE MAD WITH ME I HAVE NO IDEA ON HOW TO TLK TO OTHER USERS ON WIKIPEDIA BUT APPERENTLY YOU PLACED A TAG on my wiki page Highland Springs High School I no It’s very short but everything that I place on the page must be approved by the school admin who is the head principal And I attend another school (JR TUCKER HIGH SCHOOL) (I used to goto Highland Springs for my freshman year and just transferred to JR Tucker. But the process is that the page has to be created and held in place until an approved layout is given So I just completed step one And step to (the content I have no idea when I am going to be able to get that up there because I t has to be approved AND I have to format it.

in WikiHtml and that looks hard really hard to do. (do you all have a dummies guide? for creating that would be very helpful)


ummmmmmmmmmmmmm I ‘am still waiting on a conformation email to continue on with the development of the page so when I get that I will let the wiki admin know every step of the way. thank you so much and please if you have any questions please feel free to email me at DavisGladney@gmail.com thank you Rashad Davis-Gladney

Davisglri 03:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


AND I APPOLIGIZE I PLACED IT ON THE WRONG PAGE AT FIRST RDGDavisglri 03:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Look at WP:IA for info on how to write a great article. And, as I said on the talk page for the article, it might be a better idea to hold off on creating the article until you have actual content to add. Usually if you get specific and verifable information in the article (look at WP:V for more info about that) then other editors will be more than happy to assist you with formatting. Focus on the information first and worry about the Wiki formatting second. Please let me know if you have any more questions. janejellyroll 03:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lutheranism Page

Hi

You recently reverted one of my edits to the Lutheranism page. You said it violated policies about point of view. What I was trying to do with that article was state information why Martin Luther saw the Catholic Church as incorrect. The reasons I listed are designed to be from the point of view of a "Protestant Reformer" because the whole heading I gave it was titled "Reasons for a Reform" that is, reasons why the Protestants had the desire to Reform the Church.

I also noticed you said "When making major changes to an article to discuss it in the talk page" but it's not that I "changed" anything to the article, it's just that I added what I think can be quite useful for someone, say, doing a project on why Protestants wanted to change the Catholic Church. My addition to the Lutheranism article was not intended to be biased, although I do see why you believe it was. It's not that I'm trying to "announce" or "promote" Lutheranism as being correct over Catholicism, it's just that I would like to have an article stating why Protestants wanted to reform the Church in the first place. Does that make sense? Please get back to me ASAP!! Kosmkrmr 01:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mistake

Sorry for my mistake. I have written the right name in my new voice about the "Romance Pannonian language". You can delete my mistake with the former post. Sincerely.--Brunodam 02:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Using Raw Story as authoritarian voice on who is a Conspiracy theorist..

Is vandalism in itself.

Please go find something better to do than hiding facts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Webucation (talk • contribs) 02:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

I'm sorry, I have no idea what you mean. I don't know what "Roaw Story" is. I understand you feel strongly about this, but that isn't an excuse to impose your POV on articles. janejellyroll 02:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
3RR it is, but I don't have time to report it. Check my last self-revert for the appropriate article. (Using Category:Conspiracy Realists instead of Category:Conspiracy realists is a masterful touch.) — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 05:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Now reported at WP:AN/3#User:Webucation_reported_by_User:Arthur_Rubin_.28Result:.29. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 08:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] WP:PORNBIO

You weren't asked to embrace your ignorance and apathy in the adult film industry as part of your "virtues." You were asked to admit that while you have absolutley no standing in the adult film industry whatsoever, that you have set yourself up as a judge on "notability" in the area. That is where you suffer from ignorance and apathy. My contribution was not "designed to stimulate traffic" anywhere, but rather to inform. You don't read carefully, another of your "virtues." I had mentioned in several areas my notable contributions in my field in being a writer of a weekly publication on the subject, in working on bareback films which are considered the living edge of the industry, and of breaking ground in the age of successful "porn" actors, but you have ignored these comments and taken everything I have said personally while carrying out your little Nazi hunt to eliminate anything your vast empire of knowledge in the adult film industry sees as less then "notable." That is the problem. I have absolutley no desire to rewrite your subjective guidelines on "notability." That isn't a job I want. Thanks for the offer anyhow.I leave most judging up to God. You take on that job yourself, and even funnier, you take yourself seriously with the "cornerstone" of your non "abstract" thought policing. Yuck.HankCruz 04:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow, five days later and you're still steamed about this? Look, nobody is forcing you to deal with Wikipedia. When you created the article, these polices were already in place. I've told you where you can go to discuss these policies and possibly contribute to changing them. Discussing them with me won't get you anywhere. If labeling me as ignorant makes you feel better about not meeting the guidelines of WP:PORNBIO as a subject, go for it. It doesn't hurt me. janejellyroll 04:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC): Wow, an admission of ignorance. Guess you "didn't care" enough to mention your apathy. Still, that's progress already. Glad you're not hurt. At least I won't have to deal with a lawsuit based on how hurt you are.HankCruz 05:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
If you can read "If labeling me as ignorant makes you feel better about not meeting the guidelins of WP:PORNBIO as a subject, go for it" as an admission of ignorance, then it is a good thing you've got that great body you've alluded to in earlier statements. Your mind certainly isn't going to make a living for you. What are you trying to accomplish here? Do you want me to admit that you're a superstar of porn? Okay, man. You're a superstar of porn. Go ahead and recreate your vanity bio page. However, another editor will mark it for deletion because you do not meet the standards set forth at WP:PORNBIO. I cannot say it any clearer. Your problem is with those policies, not with me. You're lashing out at me because you're annoyed about not meeting those guidelines. You know, I've tagged dozens of pages for speedy deletion and nobody has ever reacted the way that you have. I'm sorry about whatever is going on in your life that makes this such a big deal for you. Most people move on when they're informed that their bio page doesn't meet guidelines. janejellyroll 05:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC): Wow, now who's "lashing out"? Got problems at home? Therapy could help you. I can't. And don't bother with a three pager answer. I have only done what is correct and answered your ignorant apathethic remarks and judgements appropriately. I have done it many dozens of times and most people just move on with their lives. I'm glad you're impressed with my body, but don't care. If you dont answer me, I will have no need to answer you. Are you ready to move on with the rest of your life?HankCruz 05:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC): REF"I have absolutley no claim to my "notable" importance or any self deluded ideas of my amazing "significance" or any intention of overtaking the world with an addition to your listings of gay adult film stars." My notes to you are filled with far more humility than you seem to aspire to janejellyroll.HankCruz 05:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the laughs tonight. You're too much. Ready to move on with the rest of my life? That's completely appropriate as I did come to your talk page five days after the fact to discuss this completely trivial deletion. No, wait . . . that was you, not me. Good luck becoming notable and feel free to come back in another five days if you're still angry at Wikipedia! P.S. My remarks about your body were based on the self-aggrandizing comments you made when trying to establish some sort of notability . . . you said something about being notable because you were over 40 and had kept up your body. janejellyroll 06:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC): I already am notable enough for me and my audience, even if Im not for you. I havent made my body or my art for you. Also, just as I predicted, you seem to let this "insignificant" "porn star stud" (your words) get under your skin which indicates your anger, not mine. I dont need to wait 5 days or 5 years or 5 seconds to respond to the ignorance and apathy of your remarks. Every time I see ignorance and apathy, I stamp it out. I apologize for the 5 day delay. I had better things to do for a week than worry about you stereotyping adult entertainers as "porn star studs" that you intimate are not using their minds and are somehow more ignorant than yourself. (Check your recent messages on that subject.) I am always happy to spread laughter. You're welcome. Come back anytime for more, jelly. You dont even have to wait for 5 days. Although you may have to wait for 5 days for my answer because I have other obligations than pointing out just how riduculous you are.HankCruz 18:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
You know what--you're completely right. Wikipedia policies should change to what you alone deem appropriate. But as that isn't likely to happen, why don't you create autobiopedia.com where anybody at all can write articles about themselves without having to meet any notability standards whatsoever? "Porn star stud"? Please show me where I called you, or anybody, that. This issue isn't about me having a problem with people who work in adult entertainment (I believe your own defensiveness has projected issues onto me that I certainly don't have). Since you've now stooped to putting words in my mouth, I believe that this faux-"debate" (already fatally doomed by your reading comprehension skills and your complete unwillingness to follow constructive steps other than trolling my talk page) is over. janejellyroll 04:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the correction. This isn't "my company" either. Thank God. You may be a volunteer editor but you are so concerned with self "importance" and "significance" and "notability" that you can't see the forest for the trees. It is hardly a life's goal to get into the "who's who in gay adult film" according to your "policies" or "standards". Hey, I was volunteering some help to a little tiny insignificant wikipedia that takes itself for a WHOLE LOT MORE. You dont want it. We agree. Ignorance is not knowing, and apathy is not caring. Can you embrace them without denial as I have? Im not nearly as worried about my "importance" as you seem to be in your volunteer capacity.HankCruz 06:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the problem is here. You came to Wikipedia to write an article about yourself. As a subject, you don't seem to meet the pre-established guidelines for notability and so your article was deleted. You have the option of rewriting the article to show how you meet these guidelines (if this is an option) or becoming involved with the project to improve it in other ways. I have even told you what specific project page you can go to if you wish to discuss the guidelines you find so distasteful. "Notability" isn't some abstract value I've made up--it is a cornerstone of what we're doing here on this project (see WP:N). If you're not comfortable with that, I'm not sure why you would want your article on this "little tiny insignificant wikipedia" in the first place. What you were "volunteering" was an article devoid of context, without a single assertion of notability, designed to stimulate traffic to your website. As to your suggestion, I am not prepared to declare ignorance and apathy as positive virtues to be embraced. janejellyroll 07:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


I freely and willingly embrace ignorance and apathy towards your outlook on the adult film industry as evidenced by your company's "porn" labels, whether the subject is bareback sex or money shots or otherwise. That is true enough. I also ignore learning the entire Wikipedia system so you can learn something that actually is a part of your job, and not a part of mine. I nevertheless wish you a nice life. This isn't personal jellyroll, it's professional. It is you who have taken this personally by allowing subjective standards to stand in the way of inclusion in an, Im sorry, relatively unimportant listing. I can assure you that I am just where I need to be. I am a professional who is well paid for my work and art. I have already given you far more attention than your comments deserve. All the very best to you regardless. HankCruz 06:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

This isn't "my company." I'm a volunteer editor, just as you are. And these "subjective policies" have been agreed upon by many other editors. janejellyroll 06:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I still say your "guidelines" are filled with subjective standards that dont hold any water. One of your "porn" stars is "notable" because he is always "Submissive." Geez.

I am among the handleful of adult gay performers that work in this industry with an amazing body past the age of 40. That's significant. I work on the very edge of the industry in doing "bareback" films because I want to educate the public about the "money shot" always being on camara and how that's "safer" sex, contrary to the ignorant media and your own outlook. I write a weekly column in the local TALK magazine on Adult Entertainment because I am not an illiterate. That's significant too. Your "standards" for "significance in my industry show the profound ignorance still pervasive in our saddened and poorer society as a result of subjective standards in ostensible objective media. Sorry, you failed to convince me. HankCruz 06:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

As an editor, you are welcome to join the project of improving notability guidelines. If you have suggestions on improvements, you may leave your comments on the talk page of WP:PORNBIO as all our guidelines can be considered "works in progress." I'm not sure what you mean about your work in bareback films being contrary to my "own outlook." I can't imagine that you would have any idea about my feelings on bareback sex or money shots. Again, I'm sorry that you seem to be taking this personally. janejellyroll 06:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, Wikipedia talk page conversations go "top to bottom," so please remember to leave your comments on the bottom of the top page and place your responses under previous comments. This helps other people who might be interested follow the conversation. janejellyroll 06:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow. Rude and quick. I have absolutley no claim to my "notable" importance or any self deluded ideas of my amazing "significance" or any intention of overtaking the world with an addition to your listings of gay adult film stars. I do notice that I have done as much or more work than about half of the gay adult film stars (you call them "porn stars" which is an oxymoron). You can't be a star and an artist in a term that excludes artfulness. Anyway, I have made about a dozen films, and am easily as "important" and "notable" in my field more so than many of the people you list (Just have a look at my website at www.HankCruz.com if you are so inclined, although I think editing the world's knowledge should take up more of your time than worrrying about how "importtant" and "notable" I am. AFter spending hour on a site that I am completely unfamiliar with, I actually contributed a small article with a link to my site where readers can see my notable and important accomplishments (if you choose those words). All I got was a "this is marked for speedy deletion". I am laughing out loud at a site that cliams it wants all this notability and importance from people in their field when I out pace so many of the names on your list. My purpose isnt to brag. My purpose is to expand what you clain to be which is an open sourced encyclopedia of what's out there. No, Im not as important as a former President of the US, but that isnt exactly my claim to fame, and you do seem to be maintainiing quite a list of adult gay performers of less "significance" than myself. Funny. Speedy deletion of my work. OK. You win. FOrget it. My site gets thousands and thousands of hits in its little insignificant and un-notable way, and I hardly need you to insult me. Good luck as you lie to the world about what you are and what you represent. I dont do that.HankCruz 05:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hank_Cruz" HankCruz 05:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I saw this when you first posted it. janejellyroll 05:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hope you'll read my "talk" in wiki about your speedy deletion of my page. Hank Cruz HankCruz 05:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I didn't delete your page--an administrator did. I simply tagged it for speedy deletion, as there was no sign that the subject of the article was notable. In case you're interested for future reference, the notability guidelines for adult entertainers can be found at WP:PORNBIO. My tagging of the article was nothing personal and I'm sorry you seem to have taken it that way. By the way, please place new talk page messages at the bottom of the page. janejellyroll 05:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for removing vandalism from my user page. Steve-g 09:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Howdy

Is this you? If so, Hi! If not, Hi!. Either way, I noticed your welcome edit to My Lai Massacre (an article I pay close attention to, given my username...). A belated welcome to WP. Hope to cross paths again! Pinkville 13:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC) aka

Yes--that is me! You're the first LJ person I've come across on Wikipedia.  :) janejellyroll 22:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I guess it was only a matter of time till we crossed paths, given our shared interests... :~) I know one other lj friend on Wikipedia: Unended (aka unended01); he's made some excellent contributions on the death penalty and related topics. I imagine there are other ljers whom we know, but that are using unfamiliar usernames... What prompted you to start editing WP? Pinkville 01:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I was just reading it and then I started finding inaccuracies in articles. That made me interested in improving it and now I do a lot of recent changes patrol-type stuff and add internal links to dead-end articles. Pretty mundane story, haha. janejellyroll 01:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Much the same for me... but it was while I was doing research for work that I came across a wrong date in the article on the Second Opium War and so made my first edit. That was in 2002, when I wasn't even sure what Wikipedia was - there were still so few articles that it seemed like every time I searched for a subject I got a blank new page - and I couldn't figure out what it was! In those days, I thought WP might have something to do with Mary Daly (thinking of her Wikedary)! Pinkville 02:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it would have been really exciting to be involved with Wikipedia then! Most of the things I'm really interested in already have articles. The articles I've created have been from the requested article list for subjects I've never heard of before. Still, it's a really interesting way to learn new things. The idea of a Mary Daly Wiki makes my head spin--that would really be a trip! janejellyroll 02:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Those days were a bit of a blur for me - I hardly knew what I was doing. I only got a proper account in 2005... before that, I edited as an anonymous user (from several different computers). I have a dual identity on WP, with probably half my contributions being in photography-related articles (esp. early photographers in Asia) and the other half just following my fancy (with a political undercurrent, I imagine). Your patrolling has been pretty productive, it seems, with more than 3000 edits in a couple of months! Good on ya! ;~) Pinkville 02:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Mary Daly Wiki? Check this out: Donna Haraway¹s "Cyborg" and S. Paige Baty¹s "Matrix" have been added to Wickedary.com. Another addition to the digital Wickedary is the word "computer." Computers were formerly groups of women who computed targeting coordinates for the military. [3]. Pinkville 02:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calpine Technologies

Hi! I see you told Ranjithet that you were going to speedy Calpine Technologies, but it's not tagged. Did you forget to save the change? Thanks, William Pietri 07:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I must have forgotten to save it. Sorry about that. janejellyroll 04:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wondering if you could help?

Hello there, you put a tag on the article Lincolnshire Pallets and as a highly respected member of wikipedia i was wondering if u could read the whole article and tell some things to write about and improvr the article. Thank you very much for your help. (Ransomcall 18:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC))

Hi. I responded to your questions on the Lincolnshire Pallets talk page. However, it appears that that this article is the recreation of a previously deleted article. I don't believe significant changes have been made to it since the AfD. Am I wrong? janejellyroll 04:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
This article has been deleted several times at different locations, and the above editor is a sockpuppet of the serially-blocked "Phil Dukes spammer". Every version thus far has been either patent nonsense or spam. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip Dukes Guy (Help!) 13:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Icarus Project

After you commented on the Icarus Project article on its AfD page, I added some third-party references to the article. You may want to revisit the page. --Eastmain 06:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I revisited the article and changed my delete to a keep. Fast work! janejellyroll 06:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diatto Ottovù Zagato

I did not remove the tag. I simply moved it to at least give the article some semblance of presentability in spite of my poor powers in writing full complete articles.

Red_marquis 18:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Custard pie

Just letting you know that I'm watching the page now and helping where I can. Also trying to educate the user as to what's permissible. Trying. :) --WoohookittyWoohoo! 09:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm glad to see a more experienced user than I step in to check things out.  :) janejellyroll 09:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Israel Hdz

Hey how are you. Well your right it did have alot of myspace links to it. I have updated it so that all those links are wiki.

Thank you for warning me.

[edit] Regarding Custard pie

Those edits could be vandalism, but I'd assume rather (since I haven't read through the history) that it's just a user that doesn't know any better. I reverted myself since I wasn't sure what was going on. I'll take a look at the page shortly and see if I can offer any suggestions. --Sopoforic 04:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The editor has failed to respond to talk page messages from myself and an administrator and keeps restoring the pictures and increasing their size. I didn't know what to do and I didn't want to violate WP:3RR, so I'm glad you saw what was going on. janejellyroll 04:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll monitor it through the night. We always assume good faith but if there is a user who just won't listen, then it becomes blockable. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey i think you need to take a look at this page on wiki Coast Recordz some guys are making fun of this person really bad.

That page doesn't seem to exist. janejellyroll 05:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure that was the link because i copy/paste it. I'm guessing that another editor has deleted it because they saw what was going on. but thatnks for listening and your time - Israel Hdz.


[edit] Morning!

Months have passed and I still despise you for what you did to my article. I hope the milk in your cereal turns sour.

Okay. I hope your rancor makes you feel better. janejellyroll 08:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] abortion declines during the clinton years

I will agree with removing the italics, yet i believe it should stay in the intro and shouldnt be squirreled away down the article, we want to see right away the types of abortion rate numbers we would see in the US...83.79.137.123 04:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I disagree strongly. The lead should provide a consise summary of what to expect in the article. It is not the place to provide specific details . . . that is what the article is for. There is a clear place in the article for this information. It isn't "squirreling away" to place information in the proper section. I'm not sure what you mean by saying "we want to see right away the types of abortion rate numbers we would see in the US . . . " Do you mean what types of abortion rates we would see in the US if we were under a Democratic administration rather than a Republican one? I don't think it is possible to make that determination from these rather limited historical facts and I am bothered by the apparent desire to use the lead to make a political point. janejellyroll 05:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD reopened

There is a new AfD. I thought you might want to read. -- User:Docu

[edit] Have a Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
For tireless efforts in the fight against vandals, and excellent work on general clean-up and menial tasks! Jammy Simpson | Talk | 23:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much! janejellyroll 01:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Concerning The Message

Hi, I get all of my sources from the artists myspace pages. All im trying to do is give people the facts. Im sorry if im doing anything wrong, thanks for wondering. If you need to know anything else just ask.Tru Soulja 10:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Have another Barnstar

The Vandal's Choice Award Barnstar
For reverting my vandalous edits! also cocks! myipgoeshere | Talk | 23:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] E. Lee Spence

Seeing that you have done the only non-autobiographical work on this page, thought I would point out that he was recently in the news concerning a lawsuit over the SS Republic (1853) gold recovery. Seems the case is being returned to SC for trail, from SC TV station website RoyBatty42 18:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Do you think this warrants inclusion in the article? I'll check out the article link you provided. janejellyroll 20:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cynthia Sue Larson

Hey, Janejellyroll, the lady generates 38100 hits on google search ("Cynthia Sue Larson"): http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&hl=en&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Cynthia+Sue+Larson&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images

Seriously though, I'd describe her as one of the leading persons in the world who is working on Lucid living. If you did have a look at my contribs, it seems that her secular approach is very similar to that of Dzogchen. Thanks, --Klimov 12:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Many of those google hits consist of things like Amazon.com listings, her myspace.com page and Wiki mirrors. I'm most concerned by the fact that there are zero sources in the article and my (albeit, quick) search today didn't turn up anything that I considered to be "reliable, third-party sources." janejellyroll 03:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FREE ZIMBABWE

You can help stop the killing by letting the outside world see the protest against Mugabe and help get rid of him. FreeZimbabwe 03:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with what you're doing, but Wikipedia is not the place to do it. Please take a look at WP:NPOV. janejellyroll 03:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Your reverts to US Supreme Court case articles

You beat me to reverting 207.62.105.98's vandalism. Well done! --Cdogsimmons 01:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Npatel64

I believe his behaviour qualifies him for 3RR. Your thoughts?--Xnuala (talk) 02:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I'm trying to WP:AGF because I think he is a new user, but he has reverted multiple times and refuses to engage in any communication about his changes. janejellyroll 02:18, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
True, and his blanking of the article can be interpreted as good faith.--Xnuala (talk) 02:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I think he was just frustrated that I was making changes on what he perceived as "his" article and didn't feel like he had to respond. It's really hard to work with new users when they refuse to respond to talk page messages or use edit summaries. Oh well. janejellyroll 02:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit]  ?

is this how i ask you questions? Mrmojorisintanne 03:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes. How can I help you? janejellyroll 04:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genealogy sites

Re: your ancestor page, there are several free genealogy wiki sites where it would be more appropriate: http://genealogy.wikia.com, http://www.wikitree.org, http://rodovid.org, etc. Also check Category:Genealogy websites and List of general genealogy databases. Let me know if you'd like a copy of the deleted page so you don't have to retype it all. —Wknight94 (talk) 01:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It actually wasn't my page. I had tagged it for speedy deletion. I left a message on your talk page about it. janejellyroll 02:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
D'oh!. —Wknight94 (talk) 02:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

your a stupid whore. Im going to kick your ass, wikipedia is a place to type lies that 3rd party retards like you will believe. I don't even know why answers.com uses some of your guys posts.

fuck you.

[edit] Your a bitch

your a real big bitch. There is a myspace conspiracy and Im going to prove it, wikipedia is a place to posts stpud lies for 3rd party retards like you and the rest of the world.

Fuck yo crib nigga —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gatman140 (talk • contribs) 03:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

You might be new to Wikipedia, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt . . . but making personal attacks and threatening editors is not cool. Don't do it again, okay? I left a warning on your talk page as well. Please note that even if you change your comments later, your original comments are still visible to myself, other editors, and administrators. janejellyroll 03:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My apologize

My sincerist apologise. I should do it in person, so i can flick your ass of for getting into other people's business. Don't be so noisy you probbaly have a myspace and now all about the conspiracy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gatman140 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

Per WP:NPA please immediately stop making threats or I will be reporting you to an administrator. janejellyroll 03:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
S/he is already blocked indefinitely. —Wknight94 (talk) 04:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hardy Boys sub-stubs

You tagged some of the recently creaded one-sentance "articles" about novels in the Hardy Boys series for speedy delete with db-context. While I ageree that the "articles" in their current state should not be in Wikipedia, the mention of the clearly notable Hardy Boys series is enough to give them context IMO. What they lack is content. a merge back to The Hardy Boys or another larger related article may be appropriate. I have listed several on WP:PROD. Also please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Running on Empty (Hardy Boys novel).

Please note that if there is enough info in a short sub-stub to find out more about the subject easily, it doesn't lack context, it simply lacks content, and thus should not be speedyed with db-context. DES (talk) 12:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. janejellyroll 20:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos

Just wanted to give you kudos for your hard work destroying and reverting vandalism. Rock on, Rockstar915 04:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hardy Boys books AfD

I have added to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Running on Empty (Hardy Boys novel) additional nominations for the other simialr articles created at the same time by the same editor. You may wish to revisit the discussion in light of this. DES (talk) 05:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Kemps Landing Magnet

Your recent edit to Kemps Landing Magnet (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // MartinBot 00:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal - Lukeoil

User talk:Lukeoil is continuing his vandalism. Maybe we need to look at a suspension...

See Get Stoned

Regards,

JohnI 17:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD (2nd or 3rd)

You may want to look at [4]. -- User:Docu

[edit] Trench Coat Mafia

If you see the 8 YouTube videos I left at the External Links of the Columbine High School Massacre page, they took Diary entries from the two kids, and they said they were apart of the "Trench Coat Mafia."


Royaljared 17:31, 7th of April 2007

Look, I'm not really inclined to engage in dialogue with anybody when they use personal attacks to open the interaction. Discuss your proposed changes on the talk page for the article. Don't bring your issues here. janejellyroll 03:05, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your NPWatcher Application

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Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 11:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

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