Talk:Jansenism

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Contents 1 References 2 Expansion 3 Dead link 4 Contrast to Calvinism

[edit] References

http://mb-soft.com/believe/txc/jansenis.htm

http://frenchminds.healthekids.net/course.phtml?course_id=628

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0858980.html

I'm adding some see also kind of links to Dale Van Kley's bio page. This prominent historian is one of THE scholars of Jansenism and has written prolifically on the subject. His works are cited by just about any book I've ever read on the topic, and I've read more on it than I'd like to admit! :) --164.107.92.120 21:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion

"An opponent of the Jesuits, Jansen proposed a return to the principles laid down in the work of St. Augustine of Hippo."

Would someone please expand this sentence to show exactly what in Augustine's ethos links his writings/thought/ethos to Jansenism - it doesn't necessarily follow and it would make the leap of thought clearer to others.

Thanks,

Iamlondon 14:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dead link

I removed [1] from the article. The top google results for frenchminds are all WP or mirrors, so this site has probably gone to the great server in the sky. Silverfish70 13:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contrast to Calvinism

Unlike Calvinism, however, Jansenism lacked a doctrine of assurance, making salvation unknowable even to the "saved." I am under the impression that lack of assurance is a current criticism of Calvinism. In the eyes of Calvinism (says this criticism), people can have a religious experience and even call upon the name of Jesus for salvation, but if they end up apostate by the time of their death, they were never "really" saved, God never actually gave grace to them. In that context, the predestination of the saved and the predestination of the unsaved is unknown by the individual involved. Does anyone know more about this theological controversy? --BlueNight 06:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)