Talk:Janis Ian
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[edit] Lesbian or bi?
I thought she identified as bisexual. Also, regardless of her orientation it's really not necessary to mention it in the first sentence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.230.170.211 (talk • contribs) 06:27, 21 July 2006.
Agreed as to non-necessity. As to the content – I remember hearing her tell Howard Stern in ~1992 that she had had one disastrous marriage and one other male lover, and if she didn't say then "I'm never gonna play with boys again" she pretty strongly implied it. —Tamfang 16:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Music history link
I sent this message to User talk:Rkitko regarding a change made to the music history wikilink edit I made:
Thx for catching the edit so quickly. I like how we keep on top of things. I do believe, however, that the link you made is not the best choice.
The reason I linked to a category is that if you look at the Music history article to which you linked, it currently only goes to 1950, which is one year before Janis was even born. If you look at the History of music article, linked to from the Music history page, it is concerned with music history prior to Janis Ian, with the exception of the 20th century music link.
The 20th century link, while encompassing the times of some of Janis' contributions to music history, deals with ONLY contemporary music, and not the totality of music history.
The sentence in which the link appears deals with contemporary music since the existence of the Grammies, so it could be argued that the 20th century link would be appropriate.
However, it is my opinion that the 'Grammy' time frame can be deduced by clicking on the existing Grammy Hall of Fame. This link, although it doesn't link directly to the Hall of Fame, does provide access to Hall of Fame article and the Grammy article, from which the time frame is referenced.
BUT the link in question is simply for 'music history,' in a sentence dealing with the time period from 1972/1973 to present, therefore a link to the Music history category is best suited since it reflects the actual text of the link (music history), and from its contents, one can find the time frame within the context of the sentence in which the link is made.
If there is another solution, I do not currently know.
I think there should be more work done within the music category. I will go check out wikiprojects and see what, if anything, is being planned...SteinAlive 06:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply! Perhaps I'm still too new, but I haven't come across any situation yet where a link directly to a category in the text of an article has been appropriate. When clicking upon it, a user is expecting another article. Is this common practice elsewhere on Wikipedia and I just haven't caught it yet? Otherwise, you're right about the lack of information in this time period, but I suppose that's a failing of the available articles and they need to be expanded significantly. On second look, the music history article doesn't seem appropriate either since it focuses on the academic. History of music seems most appropriate to me, even though it lack a lot of contemporary information. I say this because when a user clicks on that link, they expect to be directed to an article on music history, not a category and not a very specific article on the time frame of music. Per WP:PIPE, I wouldn't want to create a borderline easter egg link. Thoughts? Might I also take this opportunity to say thanks for doing that bit of cleanup and wikilinking? That was excellent. (Now all I need to do is find a good PD photo of her. I have a few, but they're not wiki worthy). Cheers, --Rkitko (talk) 07:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)