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[edit] Characters By Film
As there are already Bond allies and Bond henchmen by film, I was thinking that the Bond girls should go by film and the villains go into the henchmen ny film page. I know that Bond girls and villains are importanter than allies or henchmen but most of the pages are short, such as Pussy Galore, Jinx, Molly Warmflash, General Koskov. Although some villains are long such as Scaramanga and Auric Goldfinger so ... SpecialWindler 06:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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SpecialWindler 10:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I say keep the template with each Bond Girl seperately. Who wants to go through a list of at the most two Bond Girls per film? Seems redundant. Just better to let them have their own page and be listed on the template individually instead of by "List of BG 'film'". Bond villains and Allies can be many per film, but Bond Girls are far fewer. Take Casino Royale, there are only 2 Bond Girls yet atleast 5 villains (Chiffre, White, Dimitrios, Gettler, that guy at Miami Airport) and atleast 3 or 4 allies (Mathis, Felix, that guy in Madagascar). Obviously those are much more than 2 Bond Girls. El Greco 00:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, but whats the point of having small articles such as Solange (James Bond), Moly Warmflash, (the countess from fyeo), and other ones. The longest Bond article is Vesper Lynd, yet basically it is not extra long with Solange and Vesper put together, others are the same. It basically because there are articles that are too short, although some are long (vesper, Tracy Bond and Pussy Galore (James Bond), most are short even very main bond girls like Honey Ryder, Jinx and Christmas Jones or Wai Lin. Most pages are very short. (Note most of these pages i linked go to their corresponding girl by film page) SpecialWindler 04:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- What if a character appears in a book but not the movie? These were made highly out of process, and they each should have their own page.. EnsRedShirt 07:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have added a novel part to the top of the "List of James Bond girls in (DN,FRWL,GF,TB,YOLT,OHMSS,DAF,LALD,TMWTGG,TSWLM,MR,FYEO,OCT,AVTAK,TLD and CR). This allows characters from the novels to be added to the pages. I will also add a novel part to the intros of all the pages in Allies and Henchmen. I did not change LTK,GE,TND,TWINE,DAD because they are original stories. I think due to the shortness of each Bond girl page they should be joined. The Vesper Lynd page is the longest Bond girl page out of the 40 odd girls. Now that averages 2 Bond girls per film page, but it gets rid of small (not important) Bond girl articles including Patricia Fearing, Plenty O'Toole, Corinne Dufour, Bibi Dahl, that countess from fyeo, Pola Ivanova, Dr. Molly Warmflash, to be joined. But this way more Bond girls can be added such as Liz from TLD, that peaceful fountains from DAD etc.. SpecialWindler 08:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- And exactly who are you to define who is and who is not a bond girl? EnsRedShirt 09:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I must state that it is easy to define a Bond girl, first there is a list at Bond girls and any girl in a Bond film that romantically gestures with Commander James Bond, is considered a Bond girl (though I don't know why they consider Valenka of Casino Royale a bond girl). SpecialWindler 10:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I went back to each indivdual Bond Girls Listings. It's redundant listing them by Film. If there is only one Bond girl in the entire film, what's the point of the list to begin with? A list is useful with many people, not one or two. Look whether or not some of these pages are small is mostly irrelevant (There are other small pages on Wiki), they are not stubs. What we know about the character is in the article, and that's the point. El Greco 14:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Obviously, reception to this idea was negative. So, i removed the "List of James Bond girls in XXX" and redirected them all to Bond girl. Minor Bond girls should be moved to "List of James Bond allies in XXX]], such as Dr. Molly Warmflash, but thats my opinion. SpecialWindler 08:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The "James Bond" name
QUESTION: Is the "James Bond" name, the real name of ONE single James Bond character... or is the name an alias that comes with the 007 title that has been adopted by more than one double-0 agent (not at the same time) to protect their real identity ? I know this might be a nerdy question but it would settle a discussion that started in a pub after a few pints. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.224.113.189 (talk • contribs).
- Not a clue, my friend... never thought of it... xC | ☎ 13:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't have a copy of Casino Royale here to watch right now but I think Bond's second kill in the movie refers to him as "Bond" before he has his double-0 status. If so, James Bond would be his "real" name. I say "real" because James Bond may be a pseudonym that he took on when he entered MI-6 to protect his real identity, double-0 or not. Dismas|(talk) 06:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- In that case, Alec Trevalyn would also be a psuedonym.
- But what's the point in protecting James Bond's real identity? James is an orphan, so it's not like Spiderman, where he has a secret-identity to protect his loved ones.
- Also, James has retired several times, and still keeps 'James Bond' as his name. And, I'm pretty sure his wife took on Bond as her last name ; which wouldn't make much sense unless she was planning on being a double-o agent as well. Last, I think they refferred to him as 'Commadore Bond' at his funeral that one time. JimmmyThePiep 23:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What Bond looked like
We have the chance to head the page with something like what Fleming thought his own character looked like (and he does look a bit like Hoagy Carmichael), vs. just a number. But somebody disagrees, so I hereby throw the issue out as a RfC (request for comment) among those who really care (and who have long standing Wikipedia accounts, so you're not sockpuppets). Put your opinions here, please. SBHarris 22:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Number I'd rather have the number because thats the basic logo of 007. Logos normally go up the top, so. the logo is used in all the films (on their covers) and most novels have 007 with a gun after it, though it varys from this logo. SpecialWindler 08:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Woman Murders
I'm trying to clean up some of the Bond girl and Bond villains pages, because I think there might be an error in one of them.
On the Elecktra King page, it says she is the third woman Bond has killed. But I've checked all of the others and am having trouble finding the other two. Should I remove this comment from the Electra King page? JimmmyThePiep 23:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
