Talk:Jai alai
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This article seems to mostly be about the gambling and not about the game itself. A detailed explanation of the game is warranted, if there are any players out there who want to give it a shot. Tempshill 18:24, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
As a matter of information, I've seen the basket-glove described as a chisterak. Trekphiler 04:02, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
I question the reference to fencing as a "a similary obscure sport", as fencing's widespread popularity can quite easily be attributed to the way in which the various forms of the sport have evolved from combatative swordfighting, a worldwide occurrance. Jai-Alai, however, originates from a rather specific region, and as such isn't quite comparable. In fact, the only relevant material in the 'Gambling' section is repeated in the 'Regional popularity' section, perhaps the gambling section could simply be removed? Rooneyot 19:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with Rooneyot. Fencing is certainly not "obscure". However, I lack the expertise about this game to change the paragraph about gambling to something more reasonable. Hylas 20:05, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- I just removed the gambling section for now. Given that it's followed by a Regional Distribution section which covers gambling in more dtail, it seemed rather obsolete. If someone who knows a bit more about the sport wants to flesh out the Gambling section, and perhaps reduce such references in the Regional Distribution section, it may help the flow of the article as a whole. Rooneyot 11:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] This article really needs some fleshing-out
What are the dimensions of the court? How many players are on a team? When was the game invented? How was a Basque game imported to North America? If I could answer any of these questions, I would, but I actually came to this page looking for the answers. If anyone else can do it (I'm talking to you, "Misterrick"), they really ought to. Buck 20:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Correct Pronunciation of Jai-Alai
For future reference the correct pronunciation of Jai-Alai is Hi-Lie NOT Hi-Ah-Lie! The A in Alai is silent. Obviously the people who are changing this information most likely do not follow the game of Jai-Alai on a regular basis and are misinformed on the correct pronunciation. In the future if you have any questions please post them in this talk page first and wait for an appropriate response because having to keep reverting this is becoming a geniune pain in the a**. Misterrick 09:53, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- I wasn't the source of the edit, and I almost reverted it as soon as I saw it. I've certainly never heard the "a" pronounced, but for what it's worth, Merriam-Webster lists it as an acceptable, though not preferred pronunciation for the word [1]. That's the only reason I left the edit in place. Perhaps the best course of action is to list both pronunciations as m-w does. Dmleach 20:21, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- In Basque the a is certainly pronounced. The pronunciation of j can be J, French j, y, kh,...--Error 03:28, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Whatever the correct pronunciation of the game's name might be, it ought to be supplied in the international phonetic alphabet, not in a "phonetic" approximation that will only (at best) be intelligible to speakers of American English. Since I don't know the correct pronunciation of Jai-Alai, I can't do this. Buck 20:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- When I lived in CT (back when they were still open I guess) I always heard it as Hi-Lie as if you were starting to say "highlighter" - but there is a slight skip in between the two words. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 18:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Minor changes to the edits of User:Najf
I have reverted or changed edits by User:Najf due to some inaccuracy which includes:
- 1 There was NEVER a Jai-alai Fronton at the MGM Grand in Reno, Nevada only at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada.
- 2 The Rhode Island State Legislature Abolished Jai-Alai in the entire state not just in the City of Newport.
- 3 Removed any references to Slots at Dania Jai-Alai, Although it has been legalized in Broward County there are some legal issues being worked out before machines can be installed. Further Dania is currently undergoing an ownership change, It is being sold by The Aragon Group to Boyd Gaming Corporation who has to apply for and be approved for the Pari-Mutuel Operator, Poker Room Operator and Slots Operator licensing.
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Changed location of Orlando Jai-alai from Fern Park, Florida back to Casselberry, Florida this is per the OFFICIAL Orlando Jai-alai website which lists their physical address in Casselberry not Fern Park.- I stand corrected on this one issue, Apparently I wasn't paying attention while reading the official website, It does list the address as Fern Park, Florida However right below that address is the same address except it shows the city as Casselberry, Florida. Therefore I am reverting back this edit until such time as a proper address can be verified. Misterrick 03:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I am sorry, but you are incorrect on these items: The MGM Reno fronton:May 3, 1978 - MGM Reno fronton opens. It operated until 1980.
- Can you cite a source for this and I'll place it back in the article.Misterrick 16:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Rhode Island made it illegal to play jai-alai in the City of Newport, it did not abolish the playing elsewhere or betting on the sport. Please check
(c) Commencing July 1, 2003, the division of racing and athletics shall be prohibited to license Jai Alai in the city of Newport. Any license having been issued and in effect as of that date shall be null and void and any licensee shall be prohibited from operating thereunder; provided, however, that any entity having been issued a license to operate a Jai Alai fronton prior to July 1, 2003 shall be deemed a pari-mutuel licensee as defined in § 42-61.2-1 et seq., and a licensee as defined in § 41-11-1 et seq.your facts.
- It was only made illegal after Newport Grand (Jai-Alai) decided to stop hosting live games anyway. [2] [3] (Full articles require membership, but you can get the idea from the preview.) That's rather moot though, as it's illegal now. I didn't even get to go see a live game. :( 68.228.155.76 07:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jai-Alai or Jai alai?
There are descrepencies in the content and title of the article.100110100 23:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hopefully useful
Jai Alai is the imported US American name of the game known in Basque as saski-pilota (basket-ball, literally - though real basketball is called saskibaloia in Basque) and in Spanish as cesta-punta (basket-point, probably meanining pointed basket). For more details see: Pilota. Neither in Basque or Spanish (or French as far as I know), the term Jai-Alai is used at all, except in the name of the main ball-court of Gernika (AFAIK). It's therefore a particular name in origin, most likely. Saski-pilota is not the favorite ball game among Basques, being much prefered the handball and the solid-racket (bat?) variants that require less equipment and can be played in somewhat smaller courts. You can find a lot more info in the International Federation of Basque Ball site (history, modalities, rules, playing areas, historical figures). Betting is also traditional in Basque culture (Basques typically like to bet at anything) but the game is lived as part of the culture, not just as a show with foreign stars, like in the USA. A simmilar phenomenon to that of the USA can be found in Macao. --Sugaar 08:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
