Talk:Jaguar (car)

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I feel the XJ's are the most "typical" and easy to spot Jaguars. It would seem nicer to have one of them in the pictures. --blades 00:39, Apr 26, 2004 (UTC)

- - - - hello carl,

As far as I know, Swallow Sidecar Company was not Jaguar Cars but the forerunner of them. This company used "SS" as a brand. The 1935 2.5 litre model "90" was the first Jaguar model which was officially called "SS Jaguar". Due to unnecessary asociations post war with the German SS or Schutzstaffel, the company name was changed in 1945 to Jaguar. Consequently, I think "SS (cars)" would be a separate entry and only a reference should be left here at this entry. I am ready to make the necessary modifications.

--80.98.146.251 22:52, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to log in first.

--Millisits 22:54, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I disagree. Swallow Sidecar and Jaguar are the same company under different names. Maybe if somebody wrote about the motorcycle and sidecar operations of SS it should go in a different article, but the legacy of SS Jaguar (90 & 100) is vital to Jaguar history. --H. CHENEY 15:44, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi Hcheney, I still think that the problematic statement in the actual entry is: " Founded in 1922 as the Swallow Sidecar Company by William Lyons, it was renamed Jaguar in 1935." There are references (such as The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles, edited by D. Burgess Wise, Hamlyn 1979 p. 206) where Jaguar's history is dated "1945 to date". It states " The name Jaguar first appeared in 1935. It adorned a magnificent two-seater roadster introduced by the Swallow Sidecar Company at the Lonodon Motor Show. However, it was not until 1945 that (the now) Sir William Lyons founded Jaguar Cars Limited." This is a clear statement that the renaming of Swallow was effected in 1945. I think one should be very careful with naming situations just like this. I feel that although SS Sidecar and post-1945 Jaguar Cars are the same company but in 1935 Jaguar had properly been the name of an SS model. What do you think about this?

Regards, --Millisits 18:36, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi everybody! While on this discussion everybody seems to know that the change from SS to Jaguar cars was at the end of WWII, the page entry still had the year 1935 in it. I changed that. Regards, --Dr Tux 09:19, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

1 Article title
2 Too many pictures!
3 S-type picture
4 Bad links
5 Jaguar Stype front.JPG
6 Timeline
7 Userbox
8 Templates
9 Aluminium/Steel production
10 Reliability Issues Under Ford Ownership
11 More Jaguar Userboxes

[edit] Article title

I'd like to propose moving this article to Jaguar Cars (currently a redir) since that's the name of the company. Anyone oppose? --SFoskett 16:19, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, good idea. Let's get on with it! BomberJoe 18:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too many pictures!

As it is, the page is jam-packed with images, and it makes the page look crowded and difficult to read. I suggest that either some of the images be removed from this page or that they be placed on the page in a manner that is more visually friendly. --Jagvar Mar 30, 2005

Keep the pictures, even add more, I don't see the issue with it being jam-packed with images or difficult to read ... but as you say, they it could be redesigned to be more visually friendly. Mar 31, 2005

Done (I've made a gallery) - Adrian Pingstone 16:20, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Good idea that gallery, Adrian, getting there. I've got more pics, wondering whether to add them. --Solander Apr 01 2005

Please do. Thanks for the compliment - Adrian Pingstone 07:47, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] S-type picture

The caption to this picture should be amended (for instance with a year of manufacture) to clarify that it's the current S-type, not the original S-type. rossb 15:47, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bad links

I noticed that the URLs for Jaguar car models goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar which is the link to "Jaguar" the animal. This should be fixed but I don't know where it should go.

[edit] Jaguar Stype front.JPG

One image in this article (Image:Jaguar Stype front.JPG) does not currently have any source or copyright information - and so it can now be deleted. I've looked around on google images for the original but can't source it. Does anyone here know where its from or have a free replacement image they could upload? Cheers Agnte 07:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

Timeline is missing the midsize 420 Compact 1966-68 if someone wants to do. I notice the very early cars have been removed from the timeline too, eg SS1 and Jaguar SS100. There were links to pictures which are now broken. I know they are pre Jaguar naming but I think they should be present. Solander 20 November 2005, 13:40 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

Hi, I have created a userbox for Jaguar fans. The mark-up is "User Jaguar fan." See the userbox below:

This user is a Jaguar enthusiast.

Thanks for contributing, Signature^brendel 02:43, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

The bottom of this page is now suffering from serious template overload. JW 19:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

You'd think an article about a British car compnay could use English(UK) as opposed English(US). For Example, Jaguar produces saloon and estate cars rather than sedans and wagons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.77.33.246 (talk • contribs) 19:58, September 4, 2006.

Well, it's just one section, in a part of the article which deals with the US market, and was only edited a couple of weeks ago. Otherwise it's all British litres, saloons and so on. Someone will be along to revert it soon, I'm sure. --DeLarge 20:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aluminium/Steel production

I've slightly altered the line that said that the aluminium vehicles are made at Castle Bromwich and the steel at Halewood. S-Type is steel and is made at Castle Bromwich, so doesn't fit the rule. I've intead explicity listed the production site of each model

[edit] Reliability Issues Under Ford Ownership

At the top of the article, in the introduction, it states that reliability, always Jaguar's nemesis, has got worse under Ford ownership. Which is false, frankly. So, I've changed that to 'improved dramatically', and have added a few supporting figures there.

[edit] More Jaguar Userboxes

For fellow Jaguar lovers, here are two more userboxes you might wish to use. Note: the image is a Creative Commons photo of the Jaguar animal, not the Jaguar automobile trademark. JGHowes ^talk - 19:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)