Talk:Jacopone da Todi
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[edit] Spelling of Name
I notice the name at the start of the article — 'Iacopone da Todi' — doesn't match the article name. I guess he spelt it both ways? Or one is original and one the current way? If this is so, we should at least do a redirect from one to the other. — Stumps 22:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Good question. Both spellings are correct, but i suspect the J- spelling is older. Until the 19th c this letter was part of the Alphabet and remains in toponyms and surnames. Both J and I are pronounced as /j/ and sound like Y of "year" in that position. I think it is possible to make a redirect just in case.--Wikipedius 21:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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- I've created the redirect Iacopone da Todi. — Stumps 08:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Conflict with Pope
In the Life section it says "Jacopone would not recant his position" but it is not entirely clear to me what this position is. What was the essential conflict between the Pope and Jacopone? — Stumps 22:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe i sould have dwelt more on that. Jacopone is a manicheist, there is either good or evil, and the Catholic Church has in theory created a middle ground between the two (the Purgatory stands beteen Hell and Heaven). However, the prior pope was favorable to the mystics, but when Boniface went to the throne he declared such manicheism heresy. Jacopone's position is near to the dissenters and more mystics from Northern Italy like Bonvesin de la Riva in Veneto --Wikipedius 21:39, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Death of Wife
According to the Catholic Encyclopeida it wasn't a roof collapsing, but a rasied platform upon which she was standing that gave way under her. What sources do we have one way or the other? — Stumps 09:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- I must have confused the terms, it is floor, all the sources i have quoted say that. it collapsed during a dance. Feel free to make the changes according the Catholic encyclopedia. Thanks for your additions.--Wikipedius 21:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blessed status
The Catholic encyclopedia linked at the end of this article says "Jacopone is often called blessed, and has been considered a "blessed" or a "saint", in the technical sense of the words, by different authors. As a matter of fact, Jacopone has not been beatified or canonized by the Church, although various efforts have been made in this direction ..."
So I think that this should be corrected in the article. The Catholic Church tends not to beatify rebels like Jacopone da Todi.
