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Contents 1 Additions I'm too Scared to make 2 THE MARK 3 Kingdom Hearts II 4 "game theory reference" 5 Magic compass 6 young reader books 7 Black Pearl 8 Well following text was reverted. 9 Hottest? 10 Further Edit 11 The Name 12 Jack's Swordplay 13 Accent? 14 Jack's Background 15 Who is Related? 16 I know the mark he left on Becklett 17 The source for sparrows gayness. 18 MEDITATION 19 Main Character? 20 Info Box 21 Ring 22 Undead? 23 Requested move 23.1 Survey 23.1.1 Survey - in support of the move 23.1.2 Survey - in opposition to the move 23.2 Discussion 24 Black Eyeliner

[edit] Additions I'm too Scared to make

The page should be edited to show that the Third installment of this quasi-trilogy is called 'Pirates of the Caribbean: World's End'.

And you're "too scared" to do that? Sorry, I'm rather lost there.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING^(Я) 15:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Besides, it isn't. Captain JD Sparrow

[edit] THE MARK

It is possible that the mark Jack sparrow left on Beckett is P for pirate. When Beckett holds the hot brand he says "and we each left our mark on the other" he takes a long look at the brand ,especially when Will asks what mark jack left on Beckett. It also might explain why Beckett is so secretive about it. Read more on my page--Nick Mourn

[edit] Kingdom Hearts II

Is it just me, or is this game getting a bit too much pub? ;) RadioKirk talk to me 14:23, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I personally think its hyped too much also, but to each their own...Fshy93 00:07, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "game theory reference"

there should be some more information about his use of game theory instead of just a vague reference —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.188.162.33 (talk • contribs) 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magic compass

Er, I 'eard that Sparrow got 'is magic Isla de Muerta compass from a voodoo witch woman named Tia Dalma, anyone else 'eard that rumor? Jack Sparra 18:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, as is referenced in the second movie. When Jack goes to Tia Dalma for help, she asks whether the compass jack bartered from her could lead him to what he seeks. It's less of a rumour, more a known fact really. -Captain Sparrow —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.37.217.20 (talk • contribs) 6 August 2006 (UTC) YEah, but it was a rumor when i posted the question, before the mvie vame out. JAck SpARRA

[edit] young reader books

Sparrows past is gonna be filled in in a series of young reader books, two of which are out in Wal-Mart already. Could someone read them and put th info in? Thank Ye,

I have just added an overview of the books i have read to the page. I see them as revelavent to the character.

Jack Sparra 11:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

With respect, I've redone the paragraph and included the reference. This is the sort of thing, though, that needs some dispatch; the level of detail approached fancruft, to be honest. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 14:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree but mate' I am unhappy to inform you that most of the fictional character articles about characters with huge followings do approach fancruft truly neuteral people don't usually do much editing. only fans and bashers edit these kind of acticles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Technobabble1 (talk • contribs) .

True—which is why the rest of us are here for cleanup ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 04:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank ye for understanding. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Technobabble1 (talk • contribs) .

I wouuld like it noted that i did not add the stuff about the books. Some cunning blighter addaed an unsigned comment into the middle of my request for the details of the book. I haven't edited for weeks. Don't trust anyone who pertedns to be me. Theres a Jack Sparra imitator on the loose! Jack Sparra 20:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

We should give a plot overveiw of Jack's experiences in the books, and start a page for the books.

being the obsessed fan that i am, i bought the first 4 books in the series. jack is the 16-year-old capitan of a wee fishing boat called the Barnacle, and his first mate's name is arabella. yea, she's a girl. his other crewmate's names are fitzwilliam(boy), jean(is a boy), tumen(is a boy), and constance(another girl). jack has a HUGE crush on arabella, but fitzwilliam, being the obnoxious british snob that he is, won't stop flirting with her. in the second book, she falls overboard and after he rescues her, jack has to give arabella mouth-to-mouth! t-hee! oh yeeeeeaaaaah, his catchphrase is still 'savvy' and he still thinks he's a ladies' man.71.127.209.251 00:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)ladysparrow

[edit] Black Pearl

Sorry to keep commenting, but whay does Black Pearl redirect to the first movie? Shouldn't we make an article about the ship? Jack Sparra 11:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

there isn't enough information to justify a seperate article for the ship --Ditre 13:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

With all the discussion over what type of ship it is exactly, how Jack came by it, the supernatural element to it, the history of it, and the huge plot device it often presents there really isn't enough info to justify an article? Honestly? --NovusQuestus 17:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Well following text was reverted.

The first film also offers homosexual overtones to Character of Sparrow in three scenes: When he tells a pirate that he always like him; When he tells Commodore Norrington that, Sparrow always rooted for him; When he tells Elizabeth Swann that they could have never made it.

I wrote above lines, but someone reverted, not sure if he saw the movie. I like the movie, but not this part. Chirag 02:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC) Probably that's why it was not rated G or PG. Chirag 02:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Exact words from Movie One:

The exact words used from the first movie are:
Jack to Pirate: I always liked you. (right before Elizabeth returns the dress to Barbossa).
Jack to Norrington: I want you to know that I was rooting for you, mate. Know that.
Jack to Elizabeth: It would never have worked between us, darling. I'm sorry.

Chirag 16:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

It's about drunken thieves who run around and fight people. The people enslave eachother, and there's some foul language, and the violence is just constant, as well as the fact that lots of people die. That is why it is not rated G. The cat in the hat movie was rated pg...--Dan 20:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

agreed. Chirag 16:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The text was reverted for several reasons; first, it's your analysis and is therefore original research—for such a subjective analysis to survive inclusion into an encyclopedia, it would have to be the opinion of a recognized expert in the field, such as a well-known film critic, and would require citation. Second, the analysis was not presented in a way that asserts its notability for inclusion. Third, its veracity is arguable: the first instance might present to another viewer an example of Sparrow's charming nature in an effort to win over an opponent; the second, the same; the third, a playful dig at Will Turner. It's all entirely subjective; repeated references to eunuchs, for example, could support your analysis, but the spurned women on Tortuga and Sparrow's time alone with Elizabeth on the island would argue against it. While such a passage would be fine for a fan page or a message board, it fails in an encyclopedia. Feel free to read up on what Wikipedia is not, and happy editing! RadioKirk (u|t|c) 02:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I am not an expert, neither a critic of the movie. But Spurned women on Tortuga do support my argument. Would rather wait to see the part 2, to seek more support for the argument. The talk page may keep the arguments alive for other readers to add on to. Chirag 05:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you picked the third (and most subjective) of three points for your reply (and the Tortuga scene clearly implies he was unfaithful to the women via other women) as the first and second points determine what survives scrutiny in an encyclopedia. If you haven't already, may I recommend reading WP:NOR and WP:N, and also WP:V. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 12:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Quite right. If he was a homosexual, why would the Turtuga girls, who were most likely prostitutes, be jealous of him speaking to another lady? Soryy, but the gay Sparrow theory just doesn't hold water. Jack Sparra 14:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Well It may not be Jealously at all, it may as well be due to non-performance. Chirag 15:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Speaking as someone who's seen the second film, it's pretty obvious Jack's not gay. Sorry Chirag, but it debunks yer theory quite thouroughly. --203.45.29.221 13:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I am yet to see the second movie. Chirag 15:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, at the very least, Sparrow's actor likes to think the character's gay. So, while he may not be intentionally "gay" in the script, it would perhaps be fair to cite that as an influence in Depp's portrayal.: http://in.news.yahoo.com/060629/139/65he2.html --

Only if Depp's said so in an interview and it's properly cited (and, I think we all know The Sun's reputation); otherwise, it's speculation (or tabloid fodder). RadioKirk (u|t|c) 00:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks like I sparked something unintended. Net is more powerful medium then I thought. Seems the debate reached other domains too. Not sure if the interviewer asked question after reading wikipedia article... :)

see:

1. http://www.worldsgreatestcritic.com/piratesofthecaribbean.html
2. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060707161413AApYngm

Chirag 15:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. One of my hobbies is slash fiction, and one of my favorite fandoms is PotC. Which means that I spend a lot of time thinking about the possibility that Jack Sparrow sleeps with men. And even I think that those lines need to be taken in a pretty twisted (not twisted in a bad way, just different from what's meant) way in order to be "proof" that Jack is gay.

(Also, ditto everything that RadioKirk said. ;) )

Hbackman 03:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't care how depp likes to play the character. This isn't an article on characterization it's about Jack Sparrow and until somthing about Jack being Bisexual comes from the Disney Executives or a book or one of the movies his sexuality is maintained as heterosexual on this page. however Depp's mind is rather 'interesting'and i think that adding this tidbit to Johnny Depp's acticle and maybe one on characterization or acting would be okay. Moce the Statement about that to inspiration, it is not a fact about Jack that he is bisexual therefor doesnt belong in his biography. and please do not call me an idiot I find personal attacks to be below us. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Technobabble1 (talk • contribs).

What you care about is irrelevant. This article is about the character on the whole, and valid information should not be removed. Commentary from the actor who portrays the character is even more important than some Disney exec. As a result, I have partially reverted your edit (I do agree that he is not effeminate, so I removed the cat). EVula 23:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Evula, we made a similar revert at the same time :P Technobabble1, this seems more like you don't wish your favourite movie's protagonist to be "sexually ambiguous" for whatever reason. The quote is perfectly valid, and the reference is "official" enough, not every citation can come from a studio which doesn't understand their own film. It usually comes from a director, a producer, a writer or an actor in the form of an interview. Zythe 23:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

All right then i guess that'll work however i moved the placement of your information to inspirations seeing as how it deals with Depps portrayal of the character moreso than the characters on-screen or on-page actions. if Jack does anything bisexual in the next movie or one of the books or games then it should go to traits. do we have an accord. Technobabble1

That's fine, in my opinion, especially since execs were surprised by Depp's interpretation according to the same source. Zythe 23:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

My hobby is to analyse the characters of the movie, as to how they came to be as they are potrayed. in case of Jack Sparrow, it is not just based on the script writer, or director, but the actor himself seems to have influenced the character a lot.

Apart from that, since the studio folks did feel some overtones during the release of movie one, may be it should be mentioned somewhere on the article. Chirag 15:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll admit i was slightly biased. I just feared (rather stupidly in retrospect) that Depp saying Jack is Bi would mean that the studio will have to turn Pirates 3 into "Brokeback Ship". I've got nothing angaist people of differnt sexuality however Jack Sparrow is my 9 year old brother's favorite character, in fact every little kid loves the movie. Jack is now a children's hero, even if it is a PG-13 movie there is a large kid following. You make him gay and it can't be a kid's movie which it already is, there are some things that will make it to contreversial and spoil it for the family audience. However I realise now that Wikipedia is not the place for moral debate and appologize for my actions in editing. i hop i am forgiven. --Technobabble1 16:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Nothing to forgive, at least on the talk page—this is what talk pages are for. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It's a strange perception, why can't a bisexual character be a children's hero? Will it turn them gay? Because I've been watching Buffy for years and sadly I have yet to become a vampire :(. Just interesting to note, as soon as sexuality comes into it, some people get defensive or scared. Zythe 20:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I've done a minor rewrite to make the paragraph flow like it should; before, it went from inspirations to awards back to inspirations. Meantime, the phrase "probably bisexual" cannot survive unless he said so and, in that article at least, he only used the term "sexually ambiguous" (a fling with a "cabin boy" does not necessarily denote bisexuality, and to suggest that conclusion violates WP:WEASEL and WP:NPOV). Meantime, I'd previously struck the invisible comment as potentially inflammatory—removing the passage does not necessarily denote homophobia. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hottest?

Why is the name of the jpg hottest? someone should rename it to sparrow or something —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.225.139.186 (talk • contribs).

Agreed—and, done. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further Edit

I made another copy edit, changing spelling and wording here and there. I also made the title change that intimidated others. It seems pretty certain that Pirates 3 will be either At World's End or World's End. If it looks good to everyone, I suggest taking it off the Cleanup Task force list.

I had one question on the content though. On the island of "cannibals" on Dead Man's Chest. Did anyone say that Sparrow had to be eaten, or just freed from his fleshly prison? Details might need to be changed in that paragraph.

Comments are welcome!

republicson

It doesn't matter how "certain"—Wikipedia is not a crystal ball so we wait for an official announcement. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay um their are too many internal links. some of them should go because it clutters up the page and all the underlined words make it a bit hard to read. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Technobabble1 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC).

Hardly. You can always change your CSS or just read the printable version if it gives you problems. --Pcj 00:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Name

Although this article seems fine to me, the name is questionable. I really think the article should just be named 'Jack Sparrow', without the 'Captain' in it. After all, its a biography of a character, and his name doesn't actually have Captain in it, thats just his title. Calaros 18:03, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

In some cases, I'd probably agree with you; not here, though. His title is an intrinsic part of this character's name. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

He always insisted on being cald Captain...Cameron Nedland 18:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, it gets him into a spot of bother in the second movie. -Captain JD Sparrow —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.37.217.20 (talk • contribs) 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Technobabble1 02:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jack's Swordplay

This is going back and forth, and the current version ("Jack's swordplay is formidable in its own right. Most fans believe that Sparrow is the most talented in comparison with Turner, Barbossa, and Norrington, relying on his wits and his incredible swordfighting skills to get himself out of tough situations. Some even say that Jack's skills surpass those of the other major characters, considering that Jack seems to come out of every swordfight the victor") Smacks of original research. The original passage, "According to the audio commentary featuring the scriptwriters on the DVD for the first Pirates film, while Jack's swordplay is formidable in its own right, Sparrow is the least talented in comparison with Turner, Barbossa, and Norrington, relying on his wits more than his swordplay to get himself out of tough situations." can be verified, and is in fact correct.

(I've reverted the page back to the correct version, but it'll probably be changed again soon.) Cathie 04:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe Jack is better than or equal to Will, at least. If you notice in the first film, Jack matches Will with only one sword when Will has two swords in a portion of the duel in the blacksmith shop. --Obsessed 18:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

It would be a very good idea to somehow state that while he is not as talented as the others he is still a formidable fighter, like mentioning while he could defend himself from barbossa or even will on even footing, he couldn't overcome them. i don't know.

He sucks, but he can hold his own ground for a limited amount of time.- Justyn Skowronek

Actually, the fact that he only matched Will in the little one sword vs. two shows that Jack is worse, seeing that using two full sized swords in traditional swordplay is both incredibly difficult and disadvantegeous. (If one sword had been a main gauche instead, that would be a different matter entirely. However...) Add to that the DVD commentary, and I would say that while Jack is a very skilled swordsman (especially for a pirate), Will is much more skilled (it's kind of set aside as being one of Will's biggest strengths, anyway.). Him being fourth in a list of extremly skilled swordsmen isn't a slur. Especially since he seems more adaptive than any one else, and likely the best shot out of all of them. --NovusQuestus 17:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accent?

Okay, I know Johnny's accent is all fake and stuff, and I'm no expert at British dialects, but it seems to me that his accent is somewhat inflected. Is it based on a particular English dialect? at times it seems Irishified, if you will..... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.69 (talk • contribs).

I think that I read in an interview somewhere that it's supposed to be a very light French accent. I really can't confirm or deny this though, because even though I live next door to a Frenchman, there's nothing light about his accent... Anyway, you can't take my word for it, since I don't have a source, but I do think it is somewhat French-inspired. Also keep in mind that Depp is fluent in French. Cathie 03:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

It is probably supposed to be english/caribbean slang, after all most of the character is taken from/inspired from Edward England and Calico Jack.Sneaking Viper 15:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I always thought it was a form of Australian that became mixed-up with his multi-cultural company. - Count Mall

He was supposedly born in British occupied India, and though I have no idea what a Indian-British accent sounds like, that could be it. By the way, I said Indian-British, NOT Indian, accent.- Justyn Skowronek

[edit] Jack's Background

" Captain Jack's real name was Jack Smith and he was born in India on October 25"

Where was this information found? I think it should have a source... --Obsessed 16:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I vote that it is removed unless a suitable source can be found. If the Pirates of the Caribbean Visual Guide is to be regarded as canon (which I'm not sure of, can someone tell me), then Jack was born on a ship during a typhoon. Captain JD Sparrow

Agreed. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

is jack Still Indian because the category is up 24.125.95.154 19:03, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The category was just deleted by another user, and rightly so, I think. This may have been added in confusion as Sparrow is presented as a onetime employee of the East India Trading Company, which actually was a British conglomerate. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:09, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Jack's name WAS going to be Jack Smith, but they changed it before they started filming. I was watching a thing about it on TV guide channel. I heart yous 00:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

If there's a reliable, published source, it can go in the article with citation. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 00:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

all i know is that jack WAS born somewhere in india.71.127.209.251 00:22, 7 February 2007 (UTC)ladysparrow

[edit] Who is Related?

Can someone tell me if Sparrow and Will Turner are brothers or cousins? In the first movie, Jack says to Barbosa...Turner is a distant relative. My aunts nephew. That would make them either brother's or cousins. Is that why Sparrow cut his hand, put blood on the coins and threw them to Turner to put in the chest (Needed the blood of Boot Strap Turner to take the curse off?) Thanks for your help.

I'm presuming that was Sparrow's rather lame attempt to keep Barbossa from learning Will's identity (son of Bootstrap, his blood will lift the curse, etc.). No actual relation should be considered at this point. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, the reason why Jack cut his hand was because he stole a coin so that he could be cursed too; to break the curse, he had to add his blood in addition to Bootstrap's (or Will's). It was no relative thing. Jack and Will apparently aren't related, and Jack was apparently just trying to lie to Barbossa to conceal Will's lineage.
Watemon 02:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

As stated before, it was a lame attempt made by Jack to hide Will's identity from Barbossa. However, if that information were true, they'd be cousins... and quite far from brothers.

[edit] I know the mark he left on Becklett

It's obvious, Because of Sparrow, Becklett IS a EUNICH DaffyDuck619

There's one problem with that theory (Aside from the whole 'No Original Research' thing). When Elizabeth presented him with an offer about Turner, he said "i'm listening" in a voice that made it clear he thought elizabeth was going to sleep with him. He thought Swaan was flirting with him. If he was a eunuch, he wouldn't be intertested in her. Jack Sparra 11:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree there's no basis to assume Beckett is a eunuch, but it wasn't apparent to me that he believed Elizabeth was offering sex. Only that he was interested in knowing what she had to bargain. PNW Raven 17:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I have to say that I also think that Beckett is a eunich. After all, his fasination with them has to come from somewhere, and I highly doubt that Jack himself is a eunich because he prides himself on being a ladies man. A.E.J.O'Brian 04:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to be a stick in the mud, but I need to remind people to read WP:TPG—this page is here to discuss an encyclopedia article, not our original research or individual points of view. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 04:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The source for sparrows gayness.

erm, are you sure that this source, Femalefirst.com, is really a legit source? I don't want to start an argument or anything, but shouldn't we try to back his up with a more official source? I mean, how do we know they didn't make all this stuff up, how do we know Depp actualy said this?

Actually, while the headline is certainly sensational (he said "ambiguous" rather than "gay"), I personally have been using femalefirst.co.uk on a case-by-case basis because, while the site collects from newswires, it also does its own reporting, and what I've seen seems legit. Anyone who wants to pipe in on this one, feel free. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I can't say that I , personally, would trust a website for women to determine the sexual orientation of a man, since that is the type of gossip that women would fing funny. (I'm not trying to be sexist, mind. I would be equally dubious about a mens website like, oh, I don't know, Playboy or Spiketv.com saying a female charachter was a lesbian) They just seem biased. They would probably think it funny.

And yet, if he gave them the interview... ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 04:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MEDITATION

I recently saw a promotional picture on the internet of Jack Sparrow meditating. I assume it was a promo for Dead mans chest, but i never saw a scene in the movies that contained that. Could we assume that Sparrow knows how to meditate? Jack Sparra 11:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I've seen that also, but assuming he meditates= OR...--SUIT 04:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sparrow is seen "meditating" in the scene on Isla Cruces when Norrington is digging for the Dead Man's Chest. Jack is sitting off to the side while Norrington does all the hard work. I assume this is supposed to be an indication that Jack has traveled in India and the Far East. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PNW Raven (talk • contribs) 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main Character?

Is Jack Sparrow the ONLY main character in the film, as it is implied in this article, or are Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann equally main characters? I would think that all three would be main characters, but this article implies Jack is the only one: "is a fictional pirate and the main character in [the films]. --DeadGuy 19:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Even though officialy not the main character, on the writers audio commentary for the first film, they say that Elizebeth ironicly is really the protagonist, with her actions acually setting the story in motion, and moving the story along. On the main character(s) matter, Will, Elizebeth, Jack, and Barbossa, are seen on both films covers, with the exeption that Barbossa is exchanged for Davy Jones, and hes on the bottom of the cover, not beside the rest, and his actors name (Bill Nightly) is not mentioned on the cover. In the end, however, characters will come and go, but Jack is the character that will almost definetly stay throughout the series, however long it lasts.- Justyn Skowronek

[edit] Info Box

There should be a "Pirates of the Caribbean" info box to be used on all POTC related articles Mhrmaw 12:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ring

The ameythest ring Jack takes from Tia Dalma is not Barbossa's ring. If you pay attention,the ring Barbossa wears is silver with an onyx stone and a animal insignia on the stone. He has it on as he desends the stairs at Tia Dalma's. Also, on the second disc of Dead Man's Chest,on the making of Captain Jack Sparrow,it says that the ameythest ring was a greco-roman ring Johnny Depp had got from a friend and he took it to the set for the second movie.Somebody please fix the error.

[edit] Undead?

Should the "Fictional Undead" category really be there? He was only undead for about five to ten minutes. --SSJ4 Aragorn 04:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Black Eyeliner

The "Appearance" section in the Jack Sparrow article talks about Jack's black eyeliner being the same thing used for football players on their faces during a game.
That's true, but I was watching a dvd special feature where Depp talks about how Nomads, a long time ago, would use that black stuff to help reflect the sun. He talks about how this relates to Sparrow because, being a pirate, he is a sort of Nomad, and he is, of course, constantly out in the sun.

My account is relatively new, so I couldn't add in this little tidbit myself, but I think it should at least be mentioned. Captain Bubble 05:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)