Talk:Jack Dempsey
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Wanted to add a comment on the Jimmy Darcy fight paragraph I added. This was long thought to be an exhibition bout, but recent research has discovered it was an official fight, upping Dempsey's win total to 62 for his career.
From Boxrec.com's log of Dempsey's fights:
"Jack Dempsey successfully defended his heavy weight championship last night for the first time since he won from Georges Carpentier at Jersey City, more than a year ago. Jimmy Darcy, a 'stable mate' of Dempsey’s was the opponent, and the champion received the decision after four rounds of boxing. Such is the information that reached here today from Buffalo, to find confirmation at the office of the New York Boxing Commission. Dempsey, originally carded to box an exhibition with three opponents at Buffalo last night, was confronted, just before entering the ring, with a telegram from the local office of the New York Boxing Commission, advising that he would be permitted to meet only one opponent, and that the bout must go to a decision. Jimmy Darcy, light heavy weight, who has been on tour with Dempsey for the last several days, was selected as the opponent. The champion took no chances on any adverse decision being given, the advices from Buffalo state, and boxed in a masterly fashion for the four rounds. At the conclusion the decision was his by a wide margin. At the office of the New York commission today, Secretary Harry Burchell said: 'Of course the bout had to be a decision. We had to see that the law was upheld. We make no distinction between exhibitions and regulation contests, according to law.' So Darcy has the distinction of having lasted longer with the champion than Georges Carpentier, Jess Willard, Gunboat Smith or Carl Morris. Had Darcy landed a 'lucky' punch he would be the world’s heavy weight champion today." San Francisco Chronicle John
[edit] Size
Someone add info on the size of Dempsey and other fighters.
I met Dempsey once in NYC at a party about 1973 when he was about 78.
I was 6 feet, but he appeared couple inches taller than me and while i was then 215 lbs he also appeared considerably larger like ? 240 etc
He appeared in shape. And had a fist / hand the size of a ham (huge) when I shook his hand.
Dempsey's birth place.
Dempsey was not born in Relic, Hawaii. So I change it back to Manassa, Colorado, were he was born at in 1895.
[edit] Cleanup
The article has an overly chatty tone, especially the opening para. I have no expertise on this subject, can anyone help improve? Hardwick 00:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Jack Dempsey is listed on the page of "notable Jewish sports figures" -- this is news to me. Jack was born in a Mormon village in the San Luis Valley of South Central Colorado: Manassa. I know of no evidence that would suggest that he was Jewish.
Why is there a Jack Dempsey category? Isn't this what the article itself is for? If there is something covered in the category that isn't covered well enough within the article (with appropriate links) then what is the article for, anyway? Kthejoker 17:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
According to Dempsey his family was "pretty strong Irish, with Cherokee Indian blood on both sides and a Jewish stain from my father's grandmother, Rachel Soloman".Dschwa77 03:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dempsey vs Firpo
Really funny the partiality of this article when it tooks the Dempsey-Firpo fight. Dempsey stood up at the count of nine, a very special count. Dempsey were out of the ring fourteen seconds for some people, seventeen (17) for others. Dempsey losted that fight but he was the home boxer. Also he was helped by ringside reporters to stood up. Anything else? Easy like that..
