User talk:J. J. in PA
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[edit] Special Rules
J.J., Wow! You're right. Then again, you are always right (I recognized your name from elsewhere, how many J.J. PRP's are there in PA, after all). Thanks for correcting it. However, one note, you are only supposed to sign your name to talk pages, not to articles, so I tookthat out of there for you. Feel free to reply here, if you would like, as I am watching your talk page.meamemg 23:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the information regarding signatures. I have taken them out where added in two other articles.
I am thinking of a separate article on Majority of the Entire Membership and Majority of the fixed membership, if the concept is confusing.
I'm obviously quite surprised you would recognize my user name. There are only 11 PRP's in PA, so we all kinda know each other.
Again, thank you for your help.--J. J. in PA 00:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm here, too...and recognized you immediately. I do have my doubts about the long-term viability of Wikipedia. -- Jay Maynard 00:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Jay, I recognized you at least.
Please note that I've added majority of the entire membership and majority of the fixed membership.
I did a bio of former Congressman Don Bailey, and I'd like someone in Bios or Congressional Politics to check it. If you know anyone in those areas, could you give them a heads up?
--J. J. in PA 01:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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- There is a Wikiproject for Congress, which I recomend you at least take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_U.S._Congress. It exists to try and co-ordinate all of the congress related articles. meamemg 02:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Honorable
I don't understand what you want. A federal law commanding everyone to adopt the same style of etiquette?
The federal government addresses mayors as honorable, http://www.epa.gov/swerosps/bf/html-doc/confmayo.htm -- I don't know how things are done in Western Pennsylvania, but the mayor of New York City has been honorable for about 340 years now. IN NYC, borough presidents, city commissioners of functional departments, the chancellor of the school system and council members all get "honorable" -- the City's own museum, for instance, lists them this way on its own website http://www.mcny.org/visit/about.html, the City Council uses these throughout their documents http://webdocs.nyccouncil.info/attachments/56570.htm, and they are so listed in every official document that uses honorable (as opposed to their actual job title) I've ever seen.HarvardOxon 22:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
1. The Infoplease site (which has no legal authority) states that commissioners get it, so if you want to keep citing it, then you are contradicting yourself. 2. You keep citing this Washington Life magazine, as though it were the Code of Federal Regulations -- its a DC gossip and entertainment advertiser, and some party-goer correspondent put together a half-tongue-in-cheek piece on ex government employees...so what? 3. The city commissioners of Ashland KY get it...http://www.ashlandky.org/contact.htm 4. City Counclmembers in LA get it http://www.mikefeuerforassembly.com/endorsements 5. Chicago aldermen and Cicero trustees get it http://www.transitchicago.com/news/motion/blue/douglas/comm.html 6. the Hoboken City Coiunbcil gets it http://www.hobokennj.org/html/ccouncil/cc.html, how many more do I need so that my information 'counts" as valid???HarvardOxon 23:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
WEhat article is in error? Local heads of departments means municipal -- like city...check the LA schools, the NYC department of parks, etc......What do you mean by local? Deputy Borough Presidents who are neither elected not "communications officers" get it. A press secretary, BTW, isn't the head of a municipal functional department.HarvardOxon 00:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Please get a copy of the Municipal Greenbook, for God's sake. The Parks, Fire, Police, Citywode Administrative Servioces, Environmental protecvtion, records and Rchives Admionitsration department commissiiners, just for openers, are NOT elected!!!!!HarvardOxon 00:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Try this http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/lausd/board/secretary/html/bd-members/huizar.pdfHarvardOxon 00:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Or this: http://www.novaregion.org/commission.htmHarvardOxon 00:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
In other words, you've started this whole discdussion screaming andf whining that only feds get honorable...then when proven not to know what you're tal;king about, you had to admit that state officials do, including appointed state, then you had to amdit mayros do, then you had to admit council members do , then aldermen, then some local appointed commissioners --- you started this discussion making a broad asertion that was wrong, and you are clinging like grim death to nitpicking words to prove that you can find a word in the entry that is only sometimes true. I found all of these references that p[rove everything you have said so far is wrong in a few minutes with a simple google search. If you want to write a long, elaborate paragraph showing that the whole entry is perfectly correct, but that in SOME municipalities, SOME non-elected department heads don't get Hionorable, go ahead, but then you will have to write an entry for each and every exception to THAT rule that you include, including, as I pointed out, all instances in NEw York, and now apparenmtly some in LA, and so on.HarvardOxon 00:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
