Talk:J. Hunter Johnson

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This article was nominated for deletion on 18/9/2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

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I created a page on myself, ignorantly in violation of Wikipedia's guidelines on autobiography. Harmil pointed those guidelines out to me, so I thought I'd add this blurb here.

Another Wikipedian linked GURPS Monsters to the then-non-existent Hunter Johnson page. Since I knew of the minor American composer who shared my name, I created the pages for him and me with skeletal (and easily verifiable) information, so that "Hunter Johnson" would go to him first, and set GURPS Monsters to link to this page instead. I'll refrain from making further edits to this page, except for possible corrections. If it should be deleted as vanity, no objections, but I would like to keep GURPS Monsters (red)linked to J. Hunter Johnson instead of Hunter Johnson. -- JHunterJ 20:57, 12 May 12, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedys

New speedy possibly in response to the set of recently deleted Steve O'Keefe articles. -- JHunterJ 16:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Probably not. 70.157.137.105 05:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Of course, it's hard to be sure with IP addresses, but the user's contributions include at least one bit about SC law, and the Steve O'Keefe (attorney) article was about an SC lawyer, which leads to the "possibly" observation. -- JHunterJ 18:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Regardless, your bio contains a link to your personal website (which is self-promotion) and does not assert anything significant or important about you (which makes it a perfect candidate for a speedy). Why should your bio stay when it doesn't meet minimum standards? Is it because your admin friends are helping you to usurp these standards? It appears to be against Wiki rules for you to speedy a bio that asserted some significance about the subject, and it's definitely hypocritical for you to keep your bio when you speedy others inappropriately. 70.157.137.105 22:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Links to official websites are within WP:EL. The assertion of authorship of published books is made. I don't have any admin friends. :-) Your note about "speedy others inappropriately" lends weight to my conjecture that this speedy was related to the previous speedy. I'll remove the prod; next step is an AfD if you like. -- JHunterJ 23:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

The point is that you maintain a double standard. Publishing books does not by itself make one significant or notable. You haven’t indicated any independent book review or award as Wiki requires to be considered a notable author. Also, linking to a personal website is a form of self-promotion that Wiki calls a vanity link, which indicates a biased point of view and is also ground for speedy. On the other hand, you speedy the O'Keefe article when it was not a clear-cut case for speedy. His lack of fame does not mean that he's any less notable. His contributions are important and were stated in the article. The author of that article brought your speedy to my attention, and I am bringing your double standard to everyone else's attention. 70.157.137.105 03:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)