Talk:Iwama dojo

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[edit] Focus of article

The focus of this article is very much on the Iwama style/Aikikai controversy. There must be many other things to say about the dojo; if the original buildings are maintained, and the history of life in the dojo both before and after osensei's death. // Habj 21:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

I suggest we merge Aiki Jinja into this article. Sure the dojo and the shrine are separate entities, but still all the aikido buildings in Iwama and what has been happening around them is one and the same concept to most people. Having them as separate articles means info has to been repeated in both articles, if the stories are to be understandable to others than insiders. I am not sure if "Iwama dojo" is the best title for that article though, but I can not think of any better. // Habj 21:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Please try - I did a bit a ways back trying to make all more neutral and sounding less like a glee club but was afraid to do too much at once, especailly since the split with Aikikai was so recent. There was no controversy over the changes I did so I suspect that now is a good time to attempt it. I feel that either the Iwama Ryu and Iwama Style articles were started by somone who did not search for what was already there. Good luck and I'm looking forward to your change.Peter Rehse 06:19, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] De-merge?

I just started writing an article on Aiki Jinja because for some reason it seemed the Wikipedia search engine couldn't find it. A subsequent search turned this up. I can't understand why the dojo and shrine articles have been merged into one. They are two things, although very closely related, and should have their own separate articles. I disagree that it would be hard for other than insiders to understand the relationship between them, and that it would require repetition. With well-written entries, it would work well this way. I would support splitting them back up again, but don't want to just barge in and do it unless others agree (I see by this history that the "unopposed merge" happened very recently!) If what I see here indicates that I'm not the only one who thinks this article is not "encyclopedic" enough (glee club? :-), then let's make it more so. Also I would make more salient mention of "hono embu" and less of lunch :-)

Finally, just scanning over the dojo article...final line: Tai Sai on May 29th??? This should be April, right? They don't have another one a month later, do they? Geezis, does anybody pay attention to what they're writing!? Djiann 01:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the "de-merging" proposal. --GenkiNeko 04:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
As long as there was fairly little information on the shrine, it made sense to merge them rather than the article of the shrine being a short stub mainly consisting of information that also could be found in the other article. Whoever has material for articles with some substance on both subjects, please go ahead. // habj 18:47, 25 November 2006 (UTC)