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Contents 1 How does expirience change the behavior of worms ? 2 A few extras 3 Soviet or Russian 4 Pavlov's laboratory 5 The types of Stimulus Pavlov used 6 Leningrad of St Petersburg 7 Removed text 8 Pavlovian types of nervous system - where's this legacy?? 9 Experiments

[edit] How does expirience change the behavior of worms ?

• Habituation. If a bird flies over the worm's hole, and the worm sees the shadow, it will scurry back down. However, if this keeps happening, the worm will eventually stop scurrying whenever it sees the shadow. On the other hand, knowledgeable observers would conclude that worms are stupid, so don't try ringing bells and giving them food. Deltabeignet 03:14, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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217.234.36.51 changed a date from 1990's to 1890's. I believe the original date was correct, and reflects increased openness of the former USSR after the end of communism. Any thoughts?Dave 17:47, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A few extras

Hi. Here are a couple of facts that maybe would be of secondary importance to this article (they could be acknowledged in small notes): 1) Singer Aimee Mann recorded a song called Pavlov's Bell — maybe this could be mentioned as part of the popular image of bell ringing to induce behavior in the original research; 2) Webster's dictionary acknowledges the existence of the adjective "Pavlovian" (as in "Pavlovian Conditioning"). Regards, Redux 07:37, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you're going to mention Aimee Mann, you might also want to add that Russian-American singer Regina Spektor recorded a song called Pavlov's daughter. Lunapuella 19:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soviet or Russian

What ist the correct way to refer to Pavlov's nationality? Most of hist lifetime he was a citizen of the Russian Empire, in his last years he was a citizen of the USSR, according to his lifedates. How should he be called - Soviet or Russian?

In such cases, the Soviet usage was to use both adjectives together, e.g. "Ivan Pavlov, a prominent Russian Soviet scientist." Don't know if this will work in English. Trapolator 18:32, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pavlov's laboratory

The Wikimedia Help Desk received the following e-mail regarding his laboratory.

I am writing to you regarding the factual error on the page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov. Ivan Pavlov was working in the Institute of Experimental Medicine St.Petersburg and didn't have the lab in Moscow. The Institute keeps Pavlov's lab and his office as museum. To find more information regarding the biography and Pavlov's lab please visit http://iemrams.spb.ru:8100/english/infoeng.htm.

I have amended the article accordingly. Capitalistroadster 09:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The types of Stimulus Pavlov used

I believe someone has given some highly spurious information:

However, his writings record the use of a wide variety of auditory stimuli, including whistles, metronomes, tuning forks and the bubbling of air through water by farting in the bath, in addition to a range of visual stimuli.

I have decided to delete the proposition that Pavlov used flatulence in his experiments.

JMJ

[edit] Leningrad of St Petersburg

He would sit down to lunch at exactly 12 o'clock, he would go to bed at exactly the same time each evening, would always feed his dogs at exactly the same time every night and he would always leave Leningrad for Estonia on vacation on the same day each year. This behavior changed when his son Victor died in the White Army.

If the sentence is talking about his habits prior to the formation of the White Army, surely he was leaving St Petersburg for Estonia? This would also fit better with his destination, since after St Petersburg became Leningrad, Estonia was an independent country with extremely frosty relations with the Soviet Union, and I'm not sure how simple it would have been for a Soviet citizen to make regular visits there. Binabik80 13:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed text

An anonymous editor added the following list under the heading "Some Accomplishments and Facts". Some of the points are already in the article (which make me think copyvio) and some are nonsense, but some of the statements are useful. If anyone can 1) put a realiable source with these statements and 2)assign a date to the non-dated items, please do so and insert them into the proper place in the article.

Discovery of enterokinase, an enzyme in the duodenum that activates trypsin • Discovery Of a type of protein that speeds up a chemical reaction that transfers salt of phosphoric acid from high-energy donor molecules, such as ATP(a multifunctional chemical compound that consists of a heterocyclic base, a sugar, and one or more phosphate groups. primarily known in biochemistry as the "molecular currency" of intracellular energy transfer), to specific target molecules (substrates released by the intestinal glands in the small intestine that activates the precursor form of the pancreatic enzyme trypsin, a inactive enzyme precursor, to trypsin. • Basically…an enzyme in the duodenum that activates trypsin • Description of the neural control of the pancreas and pancreatic control as a response to different foods • Basically… How much stomach prepares, How it reacts • Demonstration that chewing and swallowing alone would cause gastric secretion • Basically... Trick Stomach and body • Observation that the mere sight of food stimulates salivary and gastric secretion. • Basically… Body prepares

• Ivan Petrovich Pavlov was born on September 14, 1849 at Ryazan

• His Father, Peter Dmitrievich Pavlov, was a village priest

• He was educated first at the church school in Ryazan

• Inspired by the progressive ideas of D. I. Pisarev, and I. M. Sechenov, Pavlov abandoned his religious career and decided to devote his life to science

• In 1870 he enrolled in the physics and mathematics faculty to take the course in natural science.

• His first work was work on the physiology of the pancreatic nerves. This work was widely acclaimed and he was awarded a gold medal for it.

• In 1875 Pavlov completed his course with an outstanding record and received the degree of Candidate of Natural Sciences.

• He decided to continue his studies and proceeded to the Academy of Medical Surgery to take the third course there.

• After a competitive examination, Pavlov won a fellowship at the Academy, and this together with his position as Director of the Physiological Laboratory at the clinic of the famous Russian clinician, S. P. Botkin.

• In 1883 he presented his doctor's thesis on the subject of «The centrifugal nerves of the heart».

• In 1890 Pavlov was invited to organize and direct the Department of Physiology at the Institute of Experimental Medicine.

• Under his direction, which continued over a period of 45 years to the end of his life, this Institute became one of the most important centers of physiological research.

• In 1890 Pavlov was appointed Professor of Pharmacology at the Military Medical Academy and five years later he was appointed to the then vacant Chair of Physiology, which he held till 1925.

• It was at the Institute of Experimental Medicine in the years 1891-1900 that Pavlov did the bulk of his research on the physiology of digestion.

• In 1903, at the 14th International Medical Congress in Madrid, Pavlov read a paper on «The Experimental Psychology and Psychopathology of Anima

• In 1881, Pavlov married Seraphima (Sara) Vasilievna Karchevskaya, a teacher, the daughter of a doctor in the Black Sea fleet.

• Dr. Pavlov died in Leningrad on February 27, 1936.

Later removed content: Related link to a (somewhat acclaimed) hardcore porn parody of his research. Several recognized literary (and porographic) groups have given the text awards, so I figure we might as well keep the link in here for anyone who is interested. Online porographic novel parodying Pavlov's experiments ~ Bwagstaff 04:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pavlovian types of nervous system - where's this legacy??

Whoever wrote this page - where is the description on the huge contribution to the temperament research, the types of nervous system and the properties of nervous system, which Pavlov described? User:69.157.3.52

Feel free to take a stab at it. That's what it's here for. Rklawton 03:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Experiments

It seems to me that the page lacks a good description of Pavlov's famous dog experiments. It does go into the "classical conditioning" knowledge that was gained, but there's hardly anything about the experiment itself. Would it be appropriate to include more about it on this page?

Also, I've heard that Pavlov actually decapitated some dogs and showed that they salivated with the conditioned reflex of a bell, even shortly after death. Anyone know if this is true?--Grant M 11:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

No, its actually part of an old joke.