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[edit] Sour Drinks

I'd thought I'd offer my own interpretation of the sour drinks metaphore, partially because I think the current article on the beverage is highly assumptive: "Perhaps as sour drinks remind him of immaturity" it really sounds more like opinion since the really wasn't much mention of sour drinks and immaturity connected to each other. Anyway, here's my take:

Naota says "I don't like sour stuff" which means it's a pretty safe assumption to say that he likes sweet stuff, right? First time I saw this scene I assumed the moral was "you have to take the bad [sour] with the good [sweet]". Naota's clingyness to nothing but sweet things is rather childish, it's like saying "I don't want anything to do with bad stuff, I'd much rather avoid it at all costs." Hence, he tosses the drink down at the beginning of the episode. It's impossible to isolate yourself from bad/sour things (Carl Jung's analysis of the human psyche backs this up with his concept of the shadow. Trying to push away your shadow/"your sour side" is ultimatly futile, since it's a part of you. Jung encourages accepting your shadow as a part of yourself in order to help obtain a well balanced mental health. This could also be regarded as Naota's confronation with his anima (his idea of a perfect girlfriend), since Jung noted that we often take a concept of a perfect person and project it onto a person we know [in this case, Mamimi]; the healthy thing to do is accept the person [Mamimi] isn't our perfect girlfriend, but rather let her be who she is and learn from the conflicts that arise [in this case, the sour drinks] Alas, I digress), as you must eventually come to terms that the world isn't always going to be perfectly sweet for you.

Anyway, that's just how I saw it. If anyone else wants to edit it to it's easier to understand for people who don't have a death girp on Jungian thought, be my guest. ARBlackwood 04:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] N.O.

Doesn't N.O. come from the difference in thought processes between the left and right sides of the brain, and not the cooperation between them, as this article states? Blademaster313 03:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I think so. Feel free to change that. -Litefantastic 23:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
    • The exact quote from the anime itself (given by Commander Amarao) is "N.O. utilizes the right brain's and left brain's distinct thought processes to open up an interdimensional channel capable of pulling things through, sometimes from light-years away, in an instant. But you can't just use anyone's head, you've gotta find the right one." So hopefully we can draw a pristine explanation off that. --Gunblade (dicemus) 18:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Isn't N.O. an abbreviation for 'neural opposite?' I don't see it mentioned here.

[edit] Baseball

I think it's speculation to say that Haruko can actually blast a ball into orbit. The idea is said in jest at the beginning of the episode (Full Swing). And, Kitsurabami only says what is damaged on the satellite, never the actual source of the damage. The connection between the two instances is strong but not enough, in my opinion, to draw the aforementioned conclusion. DVD commentary could help clear these things up. --Gunblade (dicemus) 03:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "the ultimate episode"

Is that the last episode? If it is, let's change it to "the last episode". Ultimate is just the wrong word. dposse 03:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

  • ha, i agree.--67.187.124.148 05:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
"Ultimate" actually means "final or last" as well as indicates a peak or end point in the action. But, feel free to change it if it's really that awkward. --Gunblade (dicemus) 15:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
"Ultimate" also means "best", and it gives off the wrong impression. I'm gonna change it. dposse 17:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EyeBrows

should somethin be mentioned about eyebrow's???--Ancientanubis 04:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Just a theory, but Commander Amarao when confronted face to face with Haruko says something like "I'm not a little kid anymore!" and she calls him "Loverboy" repeatedly. He seems to be in control as long as his obviously fake eyebrowns remain in place. My theory is that the Commander feels that these fake eyebrows protect him from whatever power Haruku has over him (men? people?) and when they fall off or are removed, he quickly turns to a gibbering idiot. Whether these eybrows have any real power or it's all in his mind. Or maybe Haruku did something to burn his eyebrows off permanently and if he doesn't cover his embarassing disfigurment, he's too crippled to deal with people. I was hoping to find an answer here on Wikipedia from someone who may have read something in the manga to clarify this. Anyone care to add more? --Tgryffyn 05:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Just noticed that someone had written something similar on the FLCL Characters page, please see Characters_of_FLCL#Commander_Amarao. --Tgryffyn 07:01, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

You may be right about adding a section on eyebrows. But, the evidence from the show is far too sketchy to draw any real conclusion. Unless there's dialog in the show I missed, I'm pretty sure there isn't enough to prove much beyond the speculation that Haruko did something to Amarao in the past, whether physically or emotionally. There is an implied connection between the two, but the eyebrows (at least in the show) play no more deeper than a running joke. --Gunblade (dicemus) 14:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Never Knows Best

What's up with 'Never Knows Best,' the catchphrase that is on Mamimi's cigarettes? I've heard of 'mothers knows best' and that stuff, but not with the "never" in front. Should we include that? http://nandaba.net/flcl/ has a pretty insightful article on it. It's under "Articles Archive." --67.187.124.148 05:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I would say, heck yes, please add it: given that it can be made into a veritable section with a good underlying explanation of its use in the show. As far as I know, there's no actual dialog in the show pertaining to this, but that article and DVD commentary could be of great help. --Gunblade (dicemus) 15:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Cool, let's do it!--67.187.124.148 03:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cat theme

Oh ya dur, and the cat theme. You can't ignore that. Even in one of the cuts between the episodes, Haruko mentions that the directors like cats or something, or prefers them over dogs. I forget. --67.187.124.148 05:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Huh? dposse 01:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Let me expand, throughout the series there's a cat theme that is going on. Haruko always has that michevious face, miyu-miyu the cat is some sort of comunication device, the various other stray kitties (including the one that made Haruko crash into Naota in ep.3), the episode marquis de carabas is about a cat, there was a small cut segment when haruko talks about the directors liking cats, and much more. http://nandaba.net/flcl/ wrote some stuff about it. Look under the "Articles Archive" -> "Feline Delight" --67.187.124.148 03:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Ah. Well, the "cat face" that she was making was when she was being mischievous. It's the same as a sweat drop in the world of anime. dposse 04:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Ya I know, but there so much though. --67.187.124.148 17:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
So? It's a anime. It's supposed to have it. It doesn't deserve a mention in this article. dposse 22:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Not to mention, Naota's character in the school play. Or maybe Gaku's whole chuuu thing. Haruko/Naota - Cat/Mouse? Wheatloaf 23:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Interesting, but we aren't allowed to speculate. Mind you, cats do have a strong presence - if we can demonstrate they have a recurring effect on the series, then they can go in this article. -Litefantastic 00:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Well Ninamori says at one point in the third episode, "All I have is my cat." This most likely refers to Naota, whom Ninamori is interested in. This makes "cat" a double entendre for love interest. There is also a cut in Full Swing that seems to depict Miyu-Miyu viciously killing Haruko. Whatever that could mean. 65.4.40.82 12:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I understand that we can't speculate but check out the article written over at http://nandaba.net/flcl/ under "Articles Archive," it's the one titled "Feline Delight." I still think there is a prominent cat theme going on. I still need an account. 69.148.65.190 17:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Original Research

This is an interesting discussion of the themes in FLCL, but nearly all of it appears to be original research. Also, it could probably be toned down a lot and merged into the main FLCL article. That is, if reliable sources can be found for these interpretations. If there aren't any sources to back these ideas up, then I don't think the article can stay. I love FLCL, and I'd love to see this article stay in some form... it's just unacceptable now. Leebo86 03:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naota's Lack of Brains (SPOILERS)

Are there any resources to back up this article's assertions about the X-Ray showing Naota's skull as empty? If not, then I postulate that Naota's brain is actually stored in the robot Atomsk from the time it comes out of its head. Notice that a pink wrinkly substance resembling brain tissue comes out of Atomsk every time it transforms into it's cannon-like form. This brain-like matter later becomes part of the terminal core until Naota enters the core and presumably retrieves his brain along with the power of the pirate king. This also fits with Naota's classmate's comment that the teacher is going to speak with his dad to find out where Naota put his brain. Anthropoid 03:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It's an interesting idea, but adding it would just contribute to the original research plaguing this article. I think this article either needs to be merged into the main article (just the basics) or deleted. Leebo T/C 03:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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