Talk:Italo-Greek Orthodox Church

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I radically trimmed this page. Much of the history which was here, while interesting, has been given no verifiable connection with the present N. American group. It could perhaps be put into another article about the history of Orthodoxy in Italy and Sicily. There is also no connection between this group and the diocese under Constantinople, which the article in its previous state, while admitting there to be no communion shared between the groups, seemed to be attempting to sneak into its definition. —Preost talk contribs 23:55, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Please don't add edits to this page without citing reputable sources. The name "Italo-Greek Orthodox Church" has nothing to do with the Ecumenical Patriarchate's Archdiocese of Italy, neither has there been any evidence cited that the history of Greek Orthodoxy in Italy has anything to do with the "Italo-Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of the Americas and Canada" (which is something of a nonsense name, anyhow, given that "the Americas" includes Canada).

I'm editing this page to reflect what's verifiable. Please don't change it back unless you can provide sources. I've also added a link to History of the Orthodox Church in Italy in a "See also" section, if anyone wants to create such an article. —Preost talk contribs 04:08, 21 December 2005 (UTC) ___________________ Dear Damick

The Orthodox Church in Italy of Griko and Albanese roots (and now of recent Greek expatriates) is tradionally called "Chiesa Ordossa Italo-Bizantina" or "Chiesa Ortodossa Italo-Greca", not matter wich umberlla or affiliation, and it is not exclusive to the North American denomination. With exception of a eparchy seat in Venice for a while, most of the Italian Orthodox believers were on their own for the most of the centuries.

The Italo-Greek Orthodox Church of America was organized by Italians immigrants before the Constantinople Patriarch establish a hierarchy for Italy, this is one reason that the North American denomination remained independent.

It seems that the Ecumenical Patriarch feared to worse the relationship with the Roman Church, by setting an Orthodox organization in "their canonical territory".

I will be editing the link you proposed about the history of Orthodoxy in Italy, and I don't know if you read Italian, but i'll provide some bibliography. Sincerely --Leonardo Alves 15:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reader Beware

Please do much more research before believing everything you read here. The headquarter "church" in Utica, NY is nothing more than a run down building with NO ROOF!! It is NOT a working church and actually does not even have any scheduled service.

The "Bishop" has been involved in NUMEROUS questionable dealings in the city of Utica and has tried for MANY MANY years to become a Catholic priest to no avail. After a brief visit to Greece a few years ago, he came back to the area and announced to everyone he was a Priest. One more visit, he's now a Bishop...followed by one more and now he's an Archbishop. Here in the Utica area we're expeting on his next trip he'll come back a POPE!!!

Taliankiss 19:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)taliankiss 1/24/07

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Taliankiss (talk • contribs) 19:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC).



For those of you who continue to delete what I'm writing, this is your Bishop's SELF WRITTEN BIO, and I can tell you for FACT that he is most definitely NOT an active firefighter, assitant chief, chaplain and EMT for our local fire department and is no longer working for Kunkel Ambulance Service (where he periodically worked part-time). As far as teaching ANYTHING, not a chance!!! He can't play the piano, is in terrible shape (last I heard he was actually lying and telling people he had lung cancer)and riding a HARLEY!?!?!? Not a chance in God's green earth does he ride a harley or any other motorcycle for that matter!! Keep deleting if you want and I'll keep posting the truth. This religion may be valid, but their Archbishop is a very long way from it!!!!


Bio: Hello All,

I am Metropolitan Stephen (Enea), ruling bishop of the Italo-Greek Orthodox Church in the Americas and Canda. The Italo-Greek Orthodox Church is an ancient local Orthodox Christian Church with over a 1500 year history. It's origins are in Sicily and Southern Italy and it was once a part of the Great Church of Constantinople (Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople). However, when Constantinople fell to the Turks in 1453, the Italo-Greek Orthodox Church became self-ruled. It is a small Church with communities primarily in the United States and with missions being established in Sicily and Italy. But enough of that for now.

In addition to my responsibilities as a bishop I am also an active firefighter and Emergency Medical Technician (EMT). I serve as Assistant Chief, Chaplain and EMT for a local fire department and work as a paid EMT for a local ambulance company. I also serve as Chaplain for several law enforcement agencies and an EMT for a volunteer ambulance company. I also teach cultural sensitivity and ethics to fire departments, law enforcement agencies and emrgency medical services.

On the personal side, I love to cook, play the piano, watch classical movies (black and whites are the best!), enjoy the old comedies (I Love Lucy, the Munsters, Abbot and Costello, etc.)and cartoons (The Looney Tunes - Bugs Bunny, Tweety), work out regularly (Not only good for good health but keeps me fit for my job both in the Church and in the emergency services field). I like most kinds of music, especially classical. Oh yes..can't forget the motorcycle...no better way to relax than to riding a Harley on an open road (More relaxing than being on a golf course!).

If what I wrote surprises or shocks you...I make no apologies for it. Bishops are human too and there is nothing wrong with enjoying all the gifts God has given us. A priest or bishop cannot win souls for Christ by being a prude, stuck up and aloof from the people. I know who and what I am but I enjoy being with people. Some of the things I do may not be what other bishops do, but then again many people have come to know about the Orthodox Church and Faith through my interactions with them. For those who are wondering, yes..I ALWAYS wear traditional clerical clothes (cassock, riassa, skoufia, cross/panagia), except when working as a firefighter/EMT or riding a motorcycle.

Orthodoxy is the pearl of great price, a treasure to be shared with the world and the Good News of the Gospel needs to be proclaimed far and wide and that's what I do.

If you would like to get to know metter, send me a message.

May the Blessing of the LOrd be upon you all.

+Metropolitan STEPHEN