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[edit] Not seen in public?

The article said he hasn't been seen in public since his stroke... err.. a quick check says he was present at the 'Blues Ball Guitar Party' in October 2006, with his baby son, who born in APRIL OF THIS YEAR !! it's on his web site and other sites reporting the show. So I am removing that section of the article. Magic Pickle 12:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] quitting conspiracy?

www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,188463,00.html#1 www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,188463,00.html#1 -Andrew 17:54, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that's interesting stuff. I've only read half so far, but I definitely think some of the information should be added to the article. Roger Friedman is a verifiable source. --Jelligraze 02:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
It's already mentioned I believe: "Some have speculated that the statement was made in Hayes's name, but not by Hayes himself, as he suffered a stroke in January and has not been seen in public since. There have been no public comments from Hayes as to his stance." Image:glenstollery.gifPOW! 02:29, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it was added yesterday after Andrew brought it to attention. I was simply showing my support for the information being added, since it is still new information and could be subject to reversion. --Jelligraze 03:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I added it without having seen Andrew's comments.  :) User:Zoe|(talk) 17:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
That's good. I hope more people are becoming aware of this. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but if Isaac Hayes is being forced into something he doesn't want to do/approve of, then more people should become aware. I think their going to kill off chef tonight on South Park, I don't know for sure though :-( --Jelligraze 20:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I came to the talk page to say I had a theory- that the Church of Scientology threatened to revoke his membership if he didn't quit- and bam, I see this. Not too far off from the crazy crap the CoS has done in the past. Ace ofspade 23:43, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Just got done watching the show. I knew they'd kill him off. If this conspiracy is true then it's a shame. --Jelligraze 03:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Hes' not dead, he's just resting. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, the plot thickens... www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18647,00.html 71.96.218.203 21:33, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
No, it doesn't. Amy Harnell is the very person accused of lying about the first press release. This is just her denying that she lied. Big deal. Someone needs to interview Issac Hayes himself and not his Scientology rep. Chiok 22:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
[<---reverse direction] Thank you for pointing that out. For those who don't know, Hayes's resignation was apparently submitted by his agent who is a Scientologist, casting doubt on whether Chef himself actually wanted to quit. So all the accusations of "Hayes is a hypocrite!" may be wrong in the end. Keep watching the story as it unfolds. --ILike2BeAnonymous 22:45, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
This is all irrelevant anyway as Hayes has been seen attending public events since his stroke and has not withdrawn, retracted or altered the previous statements on the matter, as far as I'm aware. Magic Pickle 12:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lost access to royalties?

The article linked above also says that Hayes doesn't have access to royalties from many of the hits he has written:

"The truth is, Hayes has a sly sense of humor and loves everything about "South Park." It’s provided him a much-needed income stream since losing the royalties to the many hits he’s written, such as “Shaft” and “Soul Man,” in the mid-1970s. Even though he’s one of America’s most prolific hit writers, Hayes has been denied access to profits from his own material for almost 30 years."

This is not mentioned or explained in the article if it is true. --80.121.151.50 20:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opie & Anthony

When did the Opie & Anthony interview air? Anybody know if it was live or taped, and if it was taped, when? The link I included says he had a stroke on January 17. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:36, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

The quotes on the article are miss printed, content.ytmnd.com/content/b/d/7/bd7cfe901be86f9b16cf95f57a040b80.mp3 see/here this audio clip.--Gakhandal 21:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)Gakhandal

[edit] Merge with Return of the Chef

This section is not about Hayes at all. It's better off with The Return of Chef, since the primary focus of that section is the South Park episode. I dont see much that should be in this article other than that it's Parker and Stone's response to Hayes' quitting. hateless 20:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Oppose merge. Agree that section has too much infor not related to Hayes, but I think that this article should document his dispute with South Park over the trapped in the closet episode and the subsequent act of killing him off because he left the project. A merge would set this information back far too much. Instead it should be rewritten from the point of reference of its relevance to Hayes. savidan(talk) (e@) 00:15, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with merging. There's nothing about Isaac Hayes and if you were looking for this episode you would go to the South Park article

Definitely doesn't belong in the Isaac Hayes article. Especially long paragraphs about L Ron H etc. Ashmoo 07:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm removing the merge request. Thanks for the trimming Ashmoo, I think there's still some snips that can be made but I'm satisfield most of the irrelevant material is no longer there. hateless 22:56, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] royalty

what the heck? there's no mention of it on the ada page, and theres no sources about it...

[edit] Opening Paragraph

I decided to be bold and remove the bit about the circumstances of Hayes' leaving Southpark in the opening paragraph. It's covered in detail later in the article anyway, and if we put in-depth information about notable events related to his other careers into the intro paragraph, it'd bloat very quickly. It seemed more appropriate to just trim it out entirely. Nortelrye 17:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Information on his music?

You know Isaac Hayes had a pretty long & illustrious career *before* South Park. Looking at some of the other articles on musicians, why wouldn't any of his hits be mentioned or more focus be given to the things that actually got him famous (his musical career)? I seriously doubt anyone started watching South Park because of him, likewise vice versa.

You've got a good point, there. Personally, I think the south park/scientology controversy ought to be moved to a seperate article, or at least a sub-page. It's got nothing to do with the majority of Hayes' life or work, but it seems to make up the bulk of the article. For somebody who's had such a fruitful career, that hardly seems appropriate. Nortelrye 04:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Update/Expansion

I'm putting stuff here for public consumtion before I update and expand this page. Feel free to discuss or what-have-you. NinaEliza 07:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/music/stories/MYSA102706.WK.hayes.1db37cb.html

http://www.jacksonsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061023/NEWS01/610230306/1002

http://www.house.gov/list/press/nj10_payne/pr_040812.html

http://www.cchr.com/index.cfm/8247

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Former_South_Park_Chef_Isaac_Hayes_1116.html

I don't subscribe to the congressional roll call (300 bucks), so the last link will have to do.

NinaEliza 07:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Some idiot is posting false info

I've tried to remove the vandalism about Isaac Hayes' "death" (made up of whole cloth by some nameless moron.) However, while the erroneous death info appears on the main page, when I go to edit it, it *doesn't* appear in the edit box -- meaning I can't erase it. Any thoughts? 172.145.249.76 01:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Press F5 on your browser. This vandalism has already been removed. --Tilman 05:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prominence of South Park reference

I think having the Chef part in the opening paragraph gives it undue prominence, giving the casual reader the impression that Isaac Hayes is just this guy who played the chef in South Park. I've moved it to an appropriate place chronologically. --Tony Sidaway 01:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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