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[edit] Fictional characters who can fly

Hi, I've noticed you've started a list page... you might want to consider making it a Category instead. It's easier that way. See Help:Category. Welcome and happy editing! -HKMarks 22:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_September_11#.5B.5BList_of_Star_Wars_Dark_Jedi.5D.5D

Hi Irate Velociraptor, I closed this as being in the wrong venue. Categories for deletion is a separate venue for deletion of Categories, hope you don't mind that I closed it early. Please continue your discussion on the talk page for the list, and let me know if you have any questions. -- nae'blis 02:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional characters

Hi. Please don't put fictional characters into categories that are for real people, such as Women in war. If you want to make a category for "fictional women in war" and then place it in the women in war category, that's perfectly fine. Just keep in mind that fictional characters really need to be in categories that clearly designate them as fiction. Asarelah 18:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I just wanted to say that I like your username. Have fun editing Wikipedia, and God bless! Paul Haymon 08:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] British Isles thing

Just noted that I reverted your change to restore Europe as a port city category for London (London is in Europe, actually...). But also, while I'm not terribly bothered myself, I think you should know that British Isles as a term can give offence, particularly in Ireland - I'd recommend avoiding it if you can - and if you do keep it, I really would not put cities in the Irish Republic in that list (I know you haven't right now). If you are going to add a specifically British category, I would recommend 'Port Cities in the UK' (or the United Kingdom) - this is a very exact term.

But, welcome to Wikipedia, it's not always as grim as all that...

Tarquin Binary 06:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok Thanks I might change the name started (:Category talk:Port cities in Europe) because I'm thinking this needs to be subdivided some more would like your input. Irate velociraptor 08:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Europe seems fine, but there're a lot of European port cities on WP. Guess you could simply start by doing one country at a time and add them into Europe on the way through, though. BTW, sorry bout the 'British Isles' thing, I was mostly keen just to put Europe back (didn't realise you'd started that cat). Although I'm actually not too worried about the British Isles business one way or another, I've just been accused of enforcing my POV for removing it. That particular debate I'm keen to stay away from, I mostly just do London stuff, so please carry on, but bear in mind what I advised about Ireland... Tarquin Binary 09:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I like your log-in name - neat. Fixed a word above that had got split. Tired of my name but arduous to change.

Do not understand your change to Lübeck. In Germany, it is a port on a river. The only one I find in the U.S. landlocked. Carrionluggage 16:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking of the one in texas when I moved to that category changed it to Category:Port cities in Europe Irate velociraptor 20:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, here's a suggestion on port cities. It would take a bit more work because you have to format the page, (you just can't do category), but you could order them in sequence (clockwise or anti-clockwise) round the European coast (allowing for Europe's slightly fuzzy boundaries). Of course islands are a problem, but you could practise on Great Britain. Here's one approach, with rivers: List_of_rivers_of_England_and_Wales I also would think it safer to drop 'cities' and just say 'ports and harbours'. Anyway it's a more creative project, I suppose. (There is also a problem in that there are many European cities that are 'inland ports' on navigable waterways like the Danube, but you could put a special section in for that. I can't think of many 'inland' UK ports - though Manchester comes to mind of course.) Tarquin Binary 02:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

There's already Category:Ports and harbours so any entries that are just ports I want to move over there. I like the idea of listing cities in order by location but I don't know how to do an if then in HTMl but that should be doable using the Pythagoreans therom and the coordinates in the upper right corner of most city entries. Irate velociraptor 21:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Pythagorus won't help. Apart from the fact you need a centroid or some sort of start point, coastlines are fractal. (But, hey, they are simply *physical*, basically, see later.) I'm guessing you are a maths dude - in that case think on - consider the problem of re-entrant curves. You require two 'components' to determine the clockwise order of points around a closed curve - and only one of those is the set of (dual) Cartesian coords. The other component is, I'm afraid, the description (however that may be arranged, we veer towards topology) of the curve itself.
:Physical (what humans have evolved to deal with, IMO, basically patterns): Well, for small numbers ((<100, yeah, I'm hand-waving that) it is less time-wasting to arrange this stuff manually, in my opinion...)
I was earlier going to give you an example of how a simple clockwise algorithm based on Cartesian coords in the UK (or any reentrant shape) can go wrong, but then realised, just set the origin where you will, it will always screw up...
Later note - I'm sorry, Sat'day night, but I italicised that earlier bit because though it is possible, but majorly time-consuming, to deploy an algorithmic method, it is much simpler to count ports/harbours > x population clockwise manually.
Tarquin Binary 03:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be a lot simpler to do it manually but an algorithmic method could be applied other places once figured out. :) Irate velociraptor 07:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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