Talk:Inverse-square law
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Inverse-square laws are about point sources, and yet it sounds like point sources can't actually exist. (Doesn't the Planck length, among other things, imply that things must have a certain minimum size?) In light of this apparent paradox, can someone explain why inverse-square laws are to any extent successful? Perhaps there are empirically-derived bounds along the lines of "if two masses both have volumes less than Vsmall, then Newton's gravitation law will give results that shall not deviate by more than 1x10^(-8) newtons from the true value"? --Ryguasu 17:31 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)
Partly it's something along those lines. Notice that one of Newton's laws says that if no force acts on an object it continues at the same velocity, but one may object that there has never been an object on which no force acted, and the objection is somewhat parallel to what you're saying. Newton demonstrated mathematically that if the earth has uniform density then its gravitational field outside of the sphere in which its mass exists, is the same as if all the mass were concentrated at the center. So that's another reason. Michael Hardy 00:23 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)
- For example, Sol "provides" 9140W at the distance of Mercury (0.387AU); but only 1370W at the distance of Earth (1AU)
It does not make sense to use watts as the unit here. Perhaps watts-per-square-meter or something like that was intended instead? If so, it needs to say so. Michael Hardy 22:58, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Looking at the Principia Mathematica first edition -- it may BE Robert Hooke who advance the Inverse-Square in relation to gravity first... - Sparky
[edit] The diagram
I just looked at the diagram I drew again and I realised it doesn't look terribly good. I am going to redraw it. Does anybody have some suggestions as to how I can make it better? -- Borb 00:39, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. If you were specific about what you think needs improvement in it, maybe I could say more. Michael Hardy 02:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
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- It doesn't look very high quality, I was going to draw it again anyway, I just wondered if there was a different way I should draw it. A diagram could be either showing a quarter of the lines going through the same sized square, as in my diagram, or it could be showing the same number of lines going through a square 4 times the size of the original. Does anybody have a preference on which type I should draw? Also, technically the "squares" should be part of a sphere so I might try making them look like that. -- Borb 20:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- If you can access a copy of Edgar Allan Poe's Eureka, you will find a perfectly clear visual illustration of this law.Lestrade 15:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Lestrade
- It doesn't look very high quality, I was going to draw it again anyway, I just wondered if there was a different way I should draw it. A diagram could be either showing a quarter of the lines going through the same sized square, as in my diagram, or it could be showing the same number of lines going through a square 4 times the size of the original. Does anybody have a preference on which type I should draw? Also, technically the "squares" should be part of a sphere so I might try making them look like that. -- Borb 20:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Diagram
The first diagram I ever saw of the inverse square law was better, in my opinion. It showed ...
Nevermind, I found some similar ones: [1] [2] — Omegatron 18:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
What about lasers?